Y'all already had the option to 2-2-2 before

[Megadodo-11847]

Good news! You can choose to play Classic QP and get all you want!

Have fun! Glad I could help.

There are a number of unanswered questions about classic qp that leave it very much in doubt as to whether classic qp will truly be equivalent to current qp

[jacqui-1673]

But what at least me drove a way from that was the bad feeling when people left the group on the first loss. This put a lot of overhead just to queue for a game.

I tried it initially because I thought it would be more fun to group than to solo. And often times it was. However I ultimately stopped using it because it took way too long to find a group. Group leaders were super picky and selective only keeping people they think would carry them. I’d get kicked out of 80-90% of groups I joined which is a very negative experience in itself. And if I made my own group, I’d sit there waiting and waiting for it to fill up. Ultimately, I end up getting to play 2 games for every 1 if I just solo.

[DSPMankey-1515]

3: You no longer have to spend time trying to find or form a team to begin with which means more time playing and less time waiting.

No. You no longer have the option to take less time to queue normally. Now you’re forced to wait longer for 2-2-2

[Xaron-1831]

You’re right. In fact, queue times could possibly be better on live than people are predicting. We simply wont know until it’s implemented.

Given that a lot of people’s complaints were about 4-1-1 comps centered around DPS, it’s a safe bet to assume that DPS Queue is going to be the longest.

[kreecher-11810]

Hey guys
Something I fail to understand here with this 2-2-2 discussion is the following…

If y’all think its so good and awesome then why was it never used in comp by you guys? You always had the option to form a team of 2 dps, 2 healers, 2 tanks without Activision now FORCING it down your throats.

However you CHOSE not to, by your own free will to run a 2-2-2 comp.
Why?

Because of your constant demands for Blizzard to ENFORCE 2-2-2 they now have done it. THey now are forcing something that was already possible if you had chosen to use it.

thats a simple answer … the ones whining about not going 222 are DPS mains and wanted others to fill the roles they didnt.

[lolezread-2702]

@PrinceNiels-1345

If y’all think its so good and awesome then why was it never used in comp by you guys? You always had the option to form a team of 2 dps, 2 healers, 2 tanks without Activision now FORCING it down your throats.

However you CHOSE not to, by your own free will to run a 2-2-2 comp.
Why

Another 1…

@lolezread-2702

“uSe LFG”

• No. I want to solo Q (until maybe guilds). it takes too long to make teams, people leave after losses, each team has a dictator, takes too long to find games. Why should we be punished with all these hurdles in pursuit of balanced competitive games?. Some of my most enjoyable games have came from LFG in a 222 BUT it takes way too long. Many of us can only hop on for a bit now and again and dont want to deal with being interviewed to see if we’re illegible for the group u joined. (“Kick him, hes a hammond main”) for example

[ZESA-11965]

But on rotation

Remember when they were like Classic OW will always be available .

Lies. It’s an arcade mode in rotation. (I’m for 2-2-2)

[Spoonman-1184]

But on rotation

Remember when they were like Classic OW will always be available .

Lies. It’s an arcade mode in rotation. (I’m for 2-2-2)

Where have they stated it will be in rotation and not perm?

[ZESA-11965]

I don’t think they have explicitly stated that. Shoot, I’m not even sure that they’ve implied it. I’m definitely making an assumption based not their previous actions.

I’m also just taking a jab at OW.

[anon49069514]

I already use LFG because it’s generally a little better than regular QP.

But it’s often full of groups with weird requirements, languages I don’t speak (lots of Russians and French folks), and more importantly, it doesn’t account for what people are good at.
So while I’m always playing my main roles (support and tank), a lot of the DPS are people who are S/T in competitive and want to frag out for once. If you happen to match up against a team with DPS on their mains, you’re going to notice the difference in a very unfun way.
Some days the matches are decent, but often you’ll just have crumbling team after crumbling team.

Role queue removes a ton of overhead and tries to match you up with people playing their roles at an appropriate SR. If the current experience on PTR is any indication, it will be a noticeable improvement over both solo queue and LFG.

[Spoonman-1184]

I don’t think they have explicitly stated that. Shoot, I’m not even sure that they’ve implied it. I’m definitely making an assumption based not their previous actions.

I’m also just taking a jab at OW.

From my understanding the card will not be rotational. Replacing a game mode they have had around for 3 years with a rotation card is a very shortsighted move.

[Megadodo-11847]

Where have they stated it will be in rotation and not perm?

Neither has been stated.

this is one of the many unanswered questions about classic qp

[Slorpo-1737]

This is a good troll post, no one could misunderstand a situation this intensely unless it was on purpose. Good work bud.

[Taur-2502]

3: You no longer have to spend time trying to find or form a team to begin with which means more time playing and less time waiting.

No. You no longer have the option to take less time to queue normally. Now you’re forced to wait longer for 2-2-2

Actually not really.
Considering that previously you joined faster a game but could not always play the role you wished, you had also long waiting times for the role you wished.

If you do not wanna play only one role you can queue to more than one role at the same time.

[kreecher-11810]

From my understanding the card will not be rotational. Replacing a game mode they have had around for 3 years with a rotation card is a very shortsighted move.

i highly doubt that. i fully expect it to be rotational, just like every other arcade mode, except mystery. i also fully expect it to be phased out eventually…

[Megadodo-11847]

From my understanding the card will not be rotational. Replacing a game mode they have had around for 3 years with a rotation card is a very shortsighted move.

i highly doubt that. i fully expect it to be rotational, just like every other arcade mode, except mystery. i also fully expect it to be phased out eventually…

if it is rotational and/or is phased out, it wont be the equivalent of current qp as Jeff described

[kreecher-11810]

if it is rotational and/or is phased out, it wont be the equivalent of current qp as Jeff described

there are alot of things jeff says that never materialize.

[Megadodo-11847]

if it is rotational and/or is phased out, it wont be the equivalent of current qp as Jeff described

there are alot of things jeff says that never materialize.

the thing is, a lot of folks who are dismissive to those who prefer Freedom over Forced are telling the latter group to go play qp classic.

If qp classic is not permanently available, this isnt really an option ongoing, and ergo, such an “argument” falls flat

[Knighthood-21706]

But on rotation

Remember when they were like Classic OW will always be available .

Lies. It’s an arcade mode in rotation. (I’m for 2-2-2)

Well, thats because nobody wants to play No Limit.
If it were a well populated mode I am pretty certain they would have kept it available 24/7, but it looks like people don’t really miss 6 Hanzo comps after all.

No Limits didn’t withstand the test of time and we can only speculate if the “new” Classic Quickplay will do better.

[Megadodo-11847]

But on rotation

Remember when they were like Classic OW will always be available .

Lies. It’s an arcade mode in rotation. (I’m for 2-2-2)

Well, thats because nobody wants to play No Limit.

I play No Limits pretty much anytime it is available when i need green circles, and there is very little wait to queue for games…as such, it appears to be quite popular as near as I can tell