Y are devs so afraid of projectile dps

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Like srsly they have so little faith in the playerbase to get better (honestly dont blame em) that they just nerf any and everything

Lets nerf torb cuz ppl cant shoot a stationary target

Lets nerf junkrat cuz the explosive hero does explosion dmg and ppl cant learn to get outta choke

Lets nerf genji cuz he’s semi hard to hit even tho theres several characters that eat him for breakfast

next patch:

-buffs cree’s entire kit and gives him a dollar store pulse bomb (probably gonna give him flash back too yaaaaaaay ._.)

-Revert widow to ow1 but still giving her a net buff cuz less characters to stop her and YOU NERFED HER BEST DPS COUNTER BESIDES HERSELF

-Lets add a sniper with the movement of a flanker and absolutely no downside to her in most situations (sojourn)

-lets give soldier less recoil cuz yes

-Give tracer more damage cuz she was subpar for a month

The pattern is there people

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The turret may be stationary, but it has 225hp — which, need I remind you, is more than the entire Support roster and the majority of the dps roster — and deals 56 damage per second with a maximum range of 40m.

It was fine in 6v6, when we had a second tank who could take it out. We don’t have that anymore, since we’re under 5v5 and all that.

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Agree for everything except Tracer. I draw a distinction between ranged hitscan and close range hitscan. Tracer, Reaper and Sombra are all flankers with hitscan weapons, and don’t get powercreeped like the hitscan gods (Widow, Ashe, S76, Mcree).

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Tracer is 100% in with the rest of the hitscans that can all be nerfed to be in line with heroes like mei and sym.

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This is really embarrassing by the player base

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I always shake my head at Torb nerfs.

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Because projectiles are considered by hitscan players to be lower skill and annoying.

The only nerf i agreed with was the junkrat combo. Because i firmly against 1 hit combos

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It’s not a 1hit, if it’s a combo. It’s more accurate to say, burst insta kills.

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I mean while thats the correct terminology. The widely accepted jargen is 1 hit combos

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Yes cuz holding an entire slightline hostage as widow is so hard :neutral_face:

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Idk why blizzard is to scared to give Widow, Ashe damage numbers. Or force her to have a Mercy like every none one shot sniper character needs to one shot her

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People generally hate skill check characters. I’m also curious about that. People who want a skill check game will usually play a PvE game.

It’s really unexpected you experience so many one-sided skill check mechanisms in PvP.

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Fair enough.

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Ana can 3 tap it w/ 0 falloff.

Torbs don’t get to redeploy it with me around once it gets destroyed.

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in some ways they are because the size of the projectile hitbox is alot larger then the hitscan bullet.

now from my perspective its balanced because of the travel time in most cases. but for instance at really close range you should never miss a shot with a projectile because the hitbox will clip the enemy 100% of the time.

i typically view hitscan as being harder in the early stages of aim (when people cant aim) with projectile being easier (since you can spam) but in the later stages (when people can actually aim) hitscan becomes alot easier to get value out of, almost to an oppressive level in some cases.

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they basically are stripping the game from its uniqueness and wanting it to be some bland hitscan fest like with any other COD game lmao

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Their track record for projectile DPS:
Echo: actually seems pretty balanced
Genji: was strong for years. is still strong after like a dozen nerfs.
Hanzo: huge ez broken “sniper”
Junkrat: ezclap
Pharah: forces hitscan, unfun to fight in literally any scenario
Sojourn: Sojourn.
Torbjorn: is genuinely terrible.

They have yet to release a balanced projectile DPS.

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They are more difficult to balance

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Because projectiles allow for “unfair” fights. You shoot projecitle and hide back in cover, so enemy can’t really hurt you, but still can get hit by projectile you shot earlier. If you can predict, when enemy will walk around the corner, sometimes you can even get enemy killed with one having no chance to fight you or even see you.

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What’s funny is that it’s her hitscan attack that made her broken, and it is still the best part of her entire kit.

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