Xim users be aware

Yes, and thats why the game will now become a clownfiesta. „Meta wise“.

People here talking like the game gets better now. But this will not be the case.
People here talking like players can now rank up. Which is not the case.

People think that the ban will change the amount of xim users.
Spoiler: it wont hold long.

Time to dust off the old Genji main.

He wont get this point, its been cheating since day one but what changed is they now can reliably detect xims.
Like what did this guy even expect??? Xims where never meant to be a legit thing, if they where the console developers themselves would have made it.

Then again they can also use anti recoil scripts etc etc and yet he thinks he has the moral high ground lol.

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Did you block me yet? You didn’t attempt at commenting on my last post, but then again the weight of the forums have come down on you.

No friends on PC? Honestly thats the best, as you now get to make new ones!

:frowning: they blocked me. I can’t play anymore. Oh well, anyway…

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Yeah I don’t know why I keep trying I think he’s a lost cause and will continue coping to justify cheating.
Sad to see such lack of confidence in his skills that he must resort to xim but oh well at least soon blizz will deal with him and his ilk

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Again: it doesnt matter. It holds for a month. But the thing itself is a joke.
The biggest joke is this community thinking Blizzard actually has done something.

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I mean we will see.
For the sake of your ego I hope that you are right :rofl:
I don’t doubt people will find an eventual exploit just as pc cheats devs are in a constant race vs anti-cheat it’s just the way it is. But making it harder and more risky to cheat is always good and more often than not enough to disincentive more people from cheating.

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ximmer tears are delicious

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For those of you who are saying it isn’t an issue outside of GM. I’m gold and see XIM all the time. Not just hitscan either, here’s an XIM tank player:

https://youtu.be/dkl2vx_MgGw?si=3DgQoDlWACdEvfw7

I know they focused on higher ranks in the announcement, but I really hope blizzard ban these cheaters in lower ranks too.

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For great justice.

20 justice delivereds.

Reading what I can from the Xim community there’s been workarounds on the games that attempted to ban them. Its unlikely this will do much have anything except more smurfing.

a positive change for literally everyone that doesn’t want cheaters (read: you) in their game.

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Someone correct me if I’m wrong but it’s my understanding that rainbow six siege detects them and then adds latency to the xim players, increasing each match they play until it’s eventually unplayable for them, the work around was to unplug the xim and plug it back in, right? If that’s the case, blizzards method of keeping xim users away will work. They’re likely using A.I. detection and then banning xim players and throwing them in different Q’s. Even if they create a Smurf, they won’t be doint it very long it they use xim again if the A.I. detection is as good as I think it is. Not to mention, A.I. in all forms is rapidly improving month to month, whatever it is now can be improved on further. Wait until next Gen consoles come out. Bet they developed with A.i. in mind. It’s only going to continue to get better from here. Guess we’ll see huh.

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Then have fun with the insane console junkrat Meta. Sounds fun.

This is not correct. This was never the „workaround“.

Do you know what SAB is?
If not, you dont have any informations.

The ban wont do anything it will only increase smurfing.

In Rainbow after recent patches also tons if controller players got „mousetrapped“ because the trap was so heavily increased that it was too harsh.
Same thing can happen in ow too.

A friend of mine told me that, but I’m happy to be corrected and educated on it if I was given the incorrect information. No, I don’t know what SAB is. What is it?

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It is something the xim products use to „emulate“ analog stick Movement.
This is a setting that mousetrap AI cant detect because the mousemovements then become so analog-like that it cant see a difference to controller analog movements.
So it still thinks its a joystick.

Ubisoft heard of this problem and increased the strengh of mousetrap, but that had the problem that mousetrap started to gave real controller players the delay because mousetrap THOUGHT they are on a Mouse.
At this point mousetrap FAILED.

Another method mousetrap can work is to check the character movement.
So the left no aiming stick.
A controller player can move into ALL directions. A keyboard player only can move into 8 different directions.

This is a way you can 100% detect a keyoard player and THIS was also possible 2016.
because some people here said that „blizzard had trouble to detect them“. This is not true.

But even for this problem there is a simple solution for all the MKB adapters.
Switch from a digital Keyboard to an analog keyboard.
Problem solved.
Like I said: this mousetrap will fail like it failed on Rainbow six.
Blizzard will increase the trap and then roller players will get banned.

And the mouse is not the only thing people are using.
Ever heard of Gyro controller?
Most casuals here dont know players even use Gyro aim control, to play OW and other shooters.

IF the MKB would be 100% banned, Gyro will become the next problem for the roller players :man_shrugging:
People here think they … idk? „Kinda won“ ?

But they have no informations about anything. They just have their little feelings and hope for the best.
Thats it. But it has nothing to do with the reallity.

This sums it up pretty well. They are using SAB with analog keyboards like Wooting.

Like ive said, it will always be a cat and mouse game.

Unfortunately, this will more than likely cause more problems then fixing them.

Exactly. Another solution is use a control stick in your left hand to move and a mouse in your right hand to aim.
They often use Sony Nav controller for example.

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Good riddance to them. Just ruined the game on console.

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