Who is asking for this? I am so tired of seeing this toxic hero every single match. She used to have downsides now you’re throwing if you don’t pick her it’s getting so old
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Literally every people who keeps asking for a balanced game.
She was under performing, so they buffed her.
Given her win rate, that is pretty easily disproved.
Say… you went to overbuff. And you just (without doing anything else) selected “sort by win rate” so the heroes with the higher win rates were above the ones with lower win rates.
Where do you think Sombra is when you do that?
https://imgur.com/a/OSmW2Qb
Here so you can go look easily. I’ll give you a hint, the very bottom of the chart.
Lowest win rate in the game.
That is why they are buffing her.
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Didn’t you see all the tremendous amounts of feedback that asked for Sombra to get buffed???
“Let’s make a great game”. btw.
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People are bad → they pick a hero → they’re still bad.
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Don’t rely on Overbuff for information, it gets more outdated each day.
I’m sure Sombra struggles in the winrate, but I’m also sure that’s because people play her poorly. Sombra is nothing short of a menace in capable hands and she does not need buffs. It was criminal when they buffed her ulti ate to lock out abilities longer due to both inconsistencies with her regular hack and the fact that the short lock out was the trade off for the much better ult effect of dealing damage.
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I know that, but it is pretty obvious her win rate will be garbage regardless.
They will be playing other heroes also poorly. But, hey we could check it by looking at how her win rate changes by rank.
That would mean you would be able to filter for GM and see her bounce up the win rates.
Um… nope, still the bottom of the chart.
Looks like the bottom of the chart for all ranks. So… Yeah, buffs. This one isn’t likely to be the last either.
I expect widow, cass etc buffs soon for similar reasons.
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Buff her some more. She needed it
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Other heroes are more straightforward to play, so even if they play relatively poorly, it won’t be enough to drag the winrate down.
As for GM, we’re in a dive meta. That’s bad for Sombra, so obviously they ain’t gonna be playing her.
She is fine in dive. Being able to scout out what you are diving, where they are, and being able to join in instantly the moment dive happens, means she is a good dive character.
Also easily checked, (looks like play rates) they are playing her, they are just not winning as her.
Like, points at evidence - for all of the flaws of overbuff, (and there are many) this seems like a pretty clear set of data.
She is currently not winning games, in both the hands of people who are not good in at the game, as well as people who are.
So buffs. (which should be completely unsurprising) - and this was mild, and is unlikely to bring her win rates up enough, so expect more. (which again, when they happen shouldn’t also be surprising)
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Sombra’s a dive hero. What are you on about?
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No, what you need to learn is that an “annoying” character isn’t inherently broken.
She was underperforming, they buffed her, end of story.
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I’ll not take Overbuff’s word fir it. The devs deemed she does need a buff for some reason, though why I’ve not been seeing in my time. Sombra is a menace and she’s too easy to do well with.
A dedicated team effort will put her down, same as dealing with Widow, but Sombra just needs to harass and annoy people until they tilt, that’s her gameplay style. They only made it more obnoxious with the rework, and then further obnoxious beyond that with the EMP buff a while back.
She is too volatile to be buffed, Sombra is a very easy character to make way too good with a simple change. The less they buff her, the better.
Really though, Sombra’s translocator needs like 50% longer cooldown, it’s absurd how often she can use that thing. Do that and damage buffs would be merely tolerable but not really.
She is, but she also gets handled by dive because that’s the easiest way to find her and put her down.
It’s also her best meta though. She’s specifically a dive hero like Tracer
It’s the usual thing, what feels strong, isn’t always strong.
I am SURE that Sombra feels strong as hell, since annoying heroes are like that, and she is annoying as hell.
I don’t think she is all about tilting players. I don’t play her to do so.
I did warn people about the rework, But the same people who were crying about her being annoying pushed for it. So I don’t have a lot of time for people crying over the rework.
Do I think she needs to be reworked again so the annoying aspects of her kit actually dropped down, and other parts put in to take up the power gap that would cause? Yeah, and I have been pretty vocal about that.
But mostly when people complain she is annoying, I just point people at the threads where the Sombra mains were saying “you don’t want this” and were shouted down.
You make that change, and they would end up buffing the living hell out of her damage, you know, to balance the hero.
Same stuff which lead us here.
So I will say, like I said back then “you don’t want this” But maybe another round of Blizzard giving people what they ask for, and then balancing it so it works will finally get people to understand why it would be a bad thing.
Fitzy here with another Sombra buff.
I do want that teleport nerf though, she seriously moves around too much. It should have a longer cooldown, take longer to teleport her, or not go as far. The way it is now is super lame.
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Sojourn is also pretty low. I’m not sure if she’s doing so bad…
If you see buffs on her, don’t be surprised.
But it is super lame, on a hero with a low win rate, which will push that win rate down further. So they will end up buffing some other part of her kit.
If you make her have let mitigation and escape, then… she will die more often when she takes a fight.
So they will have to adjust how often she converts a attempted fight into a kill…
So they will buff the hell out of her damage / virus / etc.
Which is how we got virus in the first place.
When I go looking to nerf a hero, I look at what part of their kit should be buffed and make a strong argument that those parts should be buffed - the nerf then follows naturally.
It is why I want to move her to support and add healing to her kit. So, then, you a place to put power to give her win rates, and nerf down other parts of her kit.
If you want to nerf a hero, you have to identify where that power (and more, for a hero which is doing poorly) has to go.