Worse than I thought…. One reason for stomps

Folks if your not new the forum’s you probably seen me ask for Role avg mmr vs team avg mmr. Team avg mmr could make you tank be bronze but your opponent’s tank gold, but other roles have higher mmr. But the avg mmr for both teams would be equal.

For the longest time I thought it was team avg that was causing miss matches, but it’s worse than that. The titles gave it away.

It’s lobby avg mmr….!!! They’re just gathering a group of 10 and THEN randomize the teams!!

What does this mean? A team could all be noobs vs a well seasoned team. And I think that’s what happens on those 0 elim games. Sometimes I get a team full of cyber demons and the other team have 0 titles.

Please please please, can we get role avg mmr and not lobby avg.

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Maybe you were right all along… And everyone who said that the system is fine was wrong…

We’ve got changes coming to the game over the next few months which will dramatically reduce these disparities. We’ll try to find pairs of similarly rated players in each role when making a match.

:thinking:

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It also states multiple times they force 50% Win rates.

The entire system is rigged to make you grind more. That is why the MMR is hidden and they show you a FAKE visual rank.
So you are PLAYING and GRINDING to get your Visible Rank to where you want but you are literally playing with people of your same SR So it becomes this LONG Dragged out slog of a climb to get back to where you were.
UNLESS you are a GM and just Smashing everyone.

This hurts the lower elo much more because that is the majority of the players as shown in the first graph.

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Hey I would even go so far to say that the unpaid intern just deleted the “matchmaker” because suddenly the queues in europe are at a all time low at ungodly times. But match quality sunk even deeper than the mariana tench… nay even deeper than that in the waste bin.

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This is what happens when you lie on your resume and put that you can make a matchmaking system.

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Please this is all I want. I’m tired of silver/gold damage on my team against two plat damage on theirs. Or a gold 5 tank against their plat 1/diamond 5 tank. Steam roll every game

They won’t change it because it’s not what causes engagement. They need 3 things

  1. Fast Queue times
  2. Fake visible ranks to make you think you need to play more to get to the rank you want to be at.
  3. a forced system to keep you there and playing.
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It’s not causing engagement for me I’m not playing this bs matchmaking “competitive” game anymore. Only players getting decent treatment are GM with having everyone within 2 tiers and only can queue with up to one other person. I don’t think MMR is that off from ranks because the gold/silvers in my lobbies play like it. Their plat/diamond players run us because they should be. If this “engagement” tactic works, this is a sad game and gaming community for continuing to play it. Especially after making a game I paid $60 for now free to turn around and charge $20 for cosmetics I was getting for playing.

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My only question is when will this start. Is it already implemented? or something coming up next season.

They don’t care about you. Only the players in game. You can’t be engaged if you don’t play. Don’t see your logic there.

1 person not playing, even hundreds or thousands that quit don’t matter when there were 35 million the first month. Even if they lost 10 million people, that’s still 25 million playing. lol.

I wouldn’t trust this development team to fix it now. We’ve had 6 years of bad matchmaking. They’ve said before they’re “making changes” and all I’ve seen is it get even worse.

I was out in an Asia server game, I’m in NA-East coast. No1 spoke English and I had 200 ping.

I do think there is some code they code revisit and refactor while they’re in there.

I would even add A/B testing for future testing

Because to the devs, making changes means trying to force even matches even harder, which will never work.

There’s Rank for a reason. Use it, and the matches will be even sooner than later. And if they’re not, they will at least be legit matches based on Rank. So, losing will be YOUR fault. Not the matchmaker’s, which feels horrible.

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I also doubt they care. The devs for diablo actually tried when concerns were voiced on the forums, but there is a much smaller community for them. I’m not playing and not engaged that’s what I said, so don’t see your logic there just sounds like you’re agreeing. I’m not saying there won’t be millions of people still playing it, I’m saying their tactics for keeping millions of people playing are sad, and so are the millions still buying into it. lol.

Matches aren’t based on Rank, they are based on MMR. Rank is nothing, it’s fake.