First has subscriptions but it’s really, really low compared to WoW. Second is F2P, but you can pay a subscription to be able for example to use another 2 characters in your party/team, be governor of Amakna, Bonta, Brakmar or Sufokia, reset your characteristics at any time, etc. Also, both have in-game methods where you can trade in-game money (Kamas) for premium currency (Ogrinas), and buy items in the store, like subscription time, cosmetics, etc.
Both more fun, and both have more harder mechanics than WoW’s “don’t stand there, move here”, etc.
This is a perfectly valid opinion to have, and I do realize both games appeal to different types of people. But I do have to interject because of a major personal annoyance I have with FFXIV. And that is literally:
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I think you dislike WoW for this because you played FFXIV first, so the change to WoW felt like that, when the opposite was true for me. It’s like you get used to one format and the other throws ya for a loop.
I actually got so annoyed with having to look up in-depth YouTube guides for every minor system in FFXIV that I’ve almost quit a dozen times already. Like even changing the color of your chocobo is a huge and overly-complex ordeal.
But yeah, not saying you’re wrong. I just think it’s interesting that we have the same problem with each game.
Edit: Just read all through your replies to the other posts. Yes, can agree that the new player experience is confusing right now due to how Chromie Time works for new accounts. I think I read they improved it recently, but I have no way of testing it myself. But yes, I know what you’re talking about - I have no idea why they decided to release a system that sloppy.
My gripe with FFXIV is more just having to look up guides and use third party websites to figure out the systems. Nothing is intuitive and simple. Chocobo dying, gardening, house decor, ventures, etc. etc. The complete information on this stuff isn’t in-game, and it’s so hard to find a good, reliable guide for any of it online. It’s so frustrating. I feel like I need spreadsheets to play the game properly. XP
Monthly fees aren’t a guarantee for quality.
Even some f2p games have a subscription. It is just not a mandatory one.
WoW just had standardized monthly fees for “quality” MMOs simply because WoW had the monopoly for all these years. If wasn’t for WoW, FFXIV may not even had that kind of a monetization.
At max level, unless you are playing Black mage you arent ‘‘waiting several seconds to press another button’’ because just about every job, specially DPS jobs, is ogcd weaving more than half the time. Optimal rotations for DPS are basically double ogcd weaving all the time for burst windows.
Game is so big and bloated now that if you have never played then its not worth picking up. You kind of need to know what you are doing and the game does not do a good job of guiding new players to actually have fun
thats just my Impression, it already feels long in wow but i can get behind the one sec global. mostly because at max level as a caster (guess by my name a warlock) has around 1sec to 1.5sec cast time which then feels great as it flows.
you don’t feel it that strong at early lvls as your casts are closer to 2 sec.
retail wow you speed through early levels within an hour and its heavily adjusted for convinience.
The only place it feels like a achievement to level up is imho in classic hardcore. retail 1-12 took me 40min, classic hc 1-12 took me 6h. still had a good time ngl.
it does sound acceptable when you say you have multiple off global abilities you throw in between your global cds. but thats the main thing that keeps me away from playing more, i wish wow’s global was shorter so its obvious i won’t like a increase of it in FFA.
LOL I love how much you try to frame into some context that it’s bad.
If I need to buy 8 wow subs it’ll be $120 and that’s too much!!!
As for it being too much… if it’s the only thing you buy gaming wise it’s ok.
As for WoW dying… it has for a while and lower prices won’t make the game what it once was… it does however keep making a profit.
Look, I’ll say WoW shouldn’t have a sub + expansion + cash shop that has better content than you can earn… but the fact I can just go and play a different game makes it fine.
Regardless basing an impression of the speed of the game off the single one job that has long cast times and has a very different gameplay to just about every other job is kind of silly.
Oh, it does that. But it doesn’t really explain it in-depth. Like someone had to make a chocobo dying calculator tool for people to use to figure out the colors. And oh my god, the crafting process for guild submarines. X_X I don’t know why every system has to be so complex. But some of them are really cool. I’m super into racing chocobos and breeding atm.
That’s fair. I think so many people who say FFXIV is bad, or WoW is terrible in comparison, or w/e don’t realize they’re two very different games. They have the same MMO core, but they’re really different in a lot of focal points. I don’t think one’s better than the other - they’re just different.
There are certain things I wish both games would take from eachother, though. I really want WoW’s mog system in FFXIV, and I really want FFXIV’s mount drop tokens in WoW, etc. lol
In my subjective view, I assumed the systems were just horribly optimized and low-quality. They annoy me, personally, and turn me away from the game more than to it.
But I didn’t consider that they make them that way on purpose because some people like pseudo-complexity, and it’s a player retention mechanic.
