I think by now we can all agree that Window of Opportunity is single handedly the hardest achievement to unlock from all the hero challenges. Nothing is comparable, I mean don’t get me wrong I think there’s a handful that are pretty hard. But this is the only one that is close to impossible. There are so many hero achievements in the game that require you to do x and y and to wait for that perfect scenario to achieve them. BUT THIS ONE, this is the only one where you have to purposely throw games to try and get. Super fun when you’re playing such a team orientated game (sarcastically). And I’m chalking it up to the fact that it has that silly qualification “without dying” under the description. I believe that almost all support heroes have that qualification on at least one of their spray challenges. I have had no issues with any of them besides this one for Baptiste. I believe that qualification needs to be removed from this achievement, going back to purposely throwing games, you’re forced to play so safe for this challenge that a lot of the time you just have to abandon your team and save yourself. That is the most selfish thing to ask someone to do in such a team heavy game. Hitting 2k amplified damage and healing is already pretty tough, even on a dragged out King’s Row defense I can barely do it in one round. Not impossible but not easy which is what I would want for a challenge, I don’t want to be handed this achievement so I don’t want that number to change. But my goodness I do wish they would just remove the “without dying” part of it. Why do I purposely have to let the enemy team capture point just for extra time and leave my team to die just so I can try and get this spray? It really makes no sense at all, maybe if the progress didn’t reset every round and I could just go for it in competitive without having to be a troll. I don’t know though I think it’s a flex if you’ve gotten it and if I saw someone use the spray in game I would be impressed. But statistically I would like to know how many people actually have it, how many Bap mains actually have it? All I know is that I’ve gotten stupidly good with Bap while trying to get this god forsaken spray, not good enough I suppose. I would like to know everyone’s thoughts on this one though, I for one say just remove that qualification! “without dying”
For the record, I’m a Bap player who doesn’t take any notice of achievements and also doesn’t have this particular spray.
I’d go ahead and make it easier to get Window of Opportunity but at the same time change the spray that’s rewarded. Maybe it’s a simple recolour, maybe it’s a version of OW2 Bap instead. The 0.01% of people who have the original achievement get bragging rights with the orginal spray, but other people who want a ““cute”” Bap spray can still go ahead and get one; it’s just not the same as the original is all.
Then do a similar thing for Doom’s hard-to-get achievement.
I obtain most achievements in OW1 except for Cratered, Rapid Discord and both of Baps. I’ve got a few outstanding in OW2 and Baps is defo one of the hardest ones for me. I don’t really play as him which doesn’t help, but whenever I use my ult, no one seems to take advantage of it lol. I’ll get his Stand By Me, coz that’s just a luck/timing thing but WO is highly unlikely to ever happen. Won’t stop trying though lol
They already nerfed dooms Cratered achievement.
The only people with window of opportunity boosted it.
It’s still difficult to boosts.
I agree with op, just change the no death part.
Yeah I totally understand that, it would feel super crappy to get those bragging rights stripped away if they made it easier. They kept the old Florida Mayhem skin palette for those who got it before the change so I don’t see the problem with them making a new version and the chads that did the hard version could keep the current one for the flex of it. If only the devs would take notes ;-;
Yeah im just saying its pretty telling when top 500 streamers need to 5 stack in qp and throw the game just to get the spray. They’ve uploaded videos of it on yt and everything. No wonder more casual players can’t earn it… something about it has to change cause you basically need a 5 stack thats willing to lose matches to earn a spray
200 hours straight of trying to get this and I got it. Barely see anyone with it to this day even when it was reduced by 500. With Doomfist, 450 hours straight of trying to get it and I managed to get it in OW1. Never saw anyone with it since. Now in Overwatch 2 they made it easy as 1,2,3 since you just have to hit 4 people at once instead of the whole team. See the cute spray regularly now and the 450 hours felt like they went to waste.
2nd hardest is Hanzo storm arrow one.
But yes. I agree
I can barely get 2000 amplified WITH dying, let alone without. It’s impossible.
I got cratered (no asterisk) after 51 hours, I was a happy person that day.
I would have gotten it within the first 10 hours if this Winston did not randomly decide to dive a Torb turret… Like, what is this cruel fate? I got foiled by some Saturday cartoon villain decision.
Cratered was easy enough to get in OW1, and they only really reduced it by one target less.
I originally got this one twice, one in beta when it was still Scattered and again when it was live during the launch era of OW1. Though back then it was Scattered Arrow and it only required two kills… which was pretty random sometimes, I think.
Baptiste’s originally was 2500 and it was back then when Amp matrix was smaller and cheaper too. Later when they went wide-screen and increased the cost it was still brutally difficult to get anyone to use it, and still survive long enough for another round of it. It’s still near impossible to get anyone to use the ability.
Not to mention, even if you did, you still wouldn’t get enough damage or healing amplified in one casting. It would take several castings.
I would also like to point out that “Window of Opportunity” is a classic Stargate episode.
This achievement is the only one I regret not having farmed on OW1 when I still had friends playing the game. Now it’s literally impossible in solo Q unless literally throwing in QP by staying close to the spawn at all times (and even then, a quick death can easily happen - flankers, snipers etc…).
It’s the only support achievement I’m missing and outside of one of Zen’s achievement that I also had trouble getting a few years ago, the rest of them weren’t that hard to get (in my recollection).
They should adapt the achievement to 5v5 but I’d still feel disappointed not having managed to get the original one on OW1. Also, as a Baptiste fan (especially since the passive healing buff he got since 5v5), I find the cute spray really nice.
I hope I’ll get it someday !
Yesterday, I backfilled a QP match with everyone grieving and I ask enemies to help me get the achievement with Baptiste (since no one wanted to play on Havana) but it was already overtime and I only did like 700 damage with a teamkill (only me) :p…
They were like “did you get it ?” and I answered “forget it, it will take forever, thanks anyways - end the match”.
Rapid Discord, thanks, that’s the one I was thinking of in my previous post. It was really difficult. I just checked the achievement and it’s 4 kills or assists while using Discord within 6 seconds :p… Yeah, that would require a hard stomp and killing enemies at a certain pace.
Thank God I won’t ever have to get it again xD…
I’ve been close a couple of times with it, but I’m just not quick enough to chuck the orb onto the other team so doing it within 6 seconds is next to impossible for me lol
Already quite hard in 6v6, I don’t even want to imagine what it’s like in 5v5.
When it comes to Baptiste’s ult, wasn’t in 2500 damage / healing in 6v6 ?
I’m not sure if they’ve already tweaked it for 5v5. Still hard though, lol…
I think I’m OW2 it was dropped to 2,000 but I don’t think I’ve ever got that even with dying lol. It’s also annoying that it states healing and damage can count, but when you look at the stats only damage is recorded, so you can’t see what you’ve accumulated in total
I’m an achievement hunter, so I’ll keep trying lol
Kinda related, sorry, but I feel like for all heroes who got a rework (or the whole shift to 5v5) should get a rebalance in their cute achievements, if it made it harder to get. Mercy’s, for example, I think is “easier but unfair” because it’s no longer an ult and people can die randomly in the backline.
Certain ones are definitely harder in 5v5 though. Keep at it!
(Especially Zen’s with bad aim. Good golly…)
I dunno, Rapid Discord and Huge Rez! come pretty close. 6 rezzes in one life?
Good luck. Glad I got that in the old days.