Winston nerfs for ow2

he got massive buffs in the recent years. his shield now even got another one to 800hp!!
he is the only tank fast enough to suit ow2 while also having a shield to protect his team. its no surpise owl is winston v winston. Ladder games will be the same, the game is just too fast for other tanks to compete. df is a good winston counter but the odd decision that ana -she is in every game- can sleep him through power block, an ability that should grant him cc resistance as a tank, makes him not that great of a counter.

get his shield back to 700hp, its more than enough. rn he has shield almost all game since it lasts 8sec and resets every 12.

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Huh. I thought in the beta he was just an okay character. Is he really the meta in OWL?

We could make it so he doesn’t get slept through it :person_shrugging:

Yup, Winston was a sleeper pick for half the beta, and the other half he’s just the best tank

Sheee. Winton go nuts ig. But honestly though, do OWL players ever use his secondary? It seemed so meh.

we could but i dont think df needs buffs. if it comes with a trade off nerf its fine. buffing doom will make rein/sigma/zarya/hog even worse. winston is the outlier i think. 65% of rein’s shield with pretty much the same damage output and huge advantage of mobility.

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It’s less of a Winston complaint and more of a “Doomfist can’t do much against SleepDart while holding power block”.

I think powerblock itself needs a rethinking, as powerblock ends up being a self Zarya bubble that either gives you 100 energy or no energy which I’m not a fan of

Like this isn’t a nerf, in fact maybe a buff, so ignoring the CC immunity, I think punch charge should be on a resource meter that drains when not blocking with powerblock, instead of “you didn’t get it, Try again next time”

no matter what you do with it, if sleep can go through, he is just not a winston counter. winston can jump your team and get away alive while you cant. if you run doom you have nothing against sleep, you get in and you are slept every time.

ofc df brings much to his team but winston brings more. thats why i suggest a shield nerf. i mean, what is rein doing in ow2? 1200hp shield only, just play winston.

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I’m surprised people think rein is amazing with 2 fire strikes

He can barely launch one in ow1 without getting melted lul

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Id like to see other character buffs to get them more in line with the playstyle of ow2 before touching Winston or other characters that arent blatantly busted. I think its hard to immediately place the powerlevels of characters when half the roster is still getting reworks and pros are still working out an actual meta. Theres some diversity in tanks picks rn although he is definitely up there if not the most picked. I definitely think hes a good example of where other tanks should be heading rather than a balance mistep that needs to go back in line.

this is why dps players ruined the game. some dps underpicked…BUFFS…ONE tank playable NERF IT

you need to buff at least 4 of them. why not nerf one and have a base line? he is the only out of line. maybe orisa is a bit overtuned but still lack mobility and dive destroys her.

all tanks got buffed anyway for 5v5. their death ratio is low, their damage is pretty high, why buff them more?

Winston never needed his alt fire, now he’s almost unavoidable as a support/squishy without being completely dependent on your team.

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If winston is actually viable for once despite composition, then that’d good for him and other tanks should be buffed to reach him.

In OW1 he tends to melt almost immediately if the enemy has a mix of hanzo/soldier/echo… which is pretty well mostly the case in high diamond and low masters

Not really. Honestly part of it is probably that he pairs best with and against Ana which gives you a strong nano target and unlike Doom you aren’t about to tank sleep darts.

Its not though

Every tank but Hog is seeing use. Winston has been the most played but Zarya could easily overtake him soon.

Not saying he doesnt need a nerf but dont over-exaggerate so much lol it ruins your argument

Just stop. He doesn’t need any kind of nerfs, neither here, nor in OW2.

No, it’s not.

So get some splash damage to break the shield? Double shield is gonna physically impossible in Role Queue, so just get one Junkrat, Pharah or Echo and break his shield.