Since it looks like devs aren’t going to do a mass nerf, it looks like we’re going to have to buff the ones who need it.
Before you try to crucify me for wanting a winston buff because he was played in OWL two years ago, let me explain, read the entire post please, thanks.
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His DPS is simply too low, we’ve gotten new healers and tank healers such as ana seeing a huge rise in the current meta. This essentially makes winstons DPS useless as you can’t outheal anyone, heck even a passive lucio heal makes winston life a lot harder. Let’s also not forget the fact that DPS have gotten huge buffs, so if you even dare try to 1v1, let’s say a mcree, usually you would get the kill because the mcree was out of position… and well… it’s winstons job. But you can’t even do that anymore, mcree will send you right back to the spawn room. His damage needs a small buff to keep up with the amount of DPS buffs that have happened.
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His mobility is overrated. I don’t care if he could fly around the map because he isn’t doing anything. Imagine if, let’s say, genji got a buff to his mobility, let’s say, faster speed, less dash CD, faster wall climb and triple jump. However his damage was nerfed by 40% including dragonblade. So although he’s flying around the map or whatever, he’s doing absolutely nothing, in fact, he’s just feeding enemy healers ult charge. I’m not suggesting a mobility buff for winston by the way.
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He’s too squishy. Considering the amount of DPS buffs, like I said in the first point, even one lone DPS will kill him without any support. His barrier HP is low, his head is the size of the moon, while his body is the size of Jupiter, and well… his shield is like the size of the observable universe. I mean, live brigs shield is almost the same as a main tanks shield. He needs a slight shield health buff or possibly some more Armour.
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His ult feeds too much. Yes there are some pros that can make some sick plays with it, but so what? Overall, most of the time it’s an escape tool which generally just feeds the enemy ult charge. I mean, some pros have made insane plays with pulse bomb, that doesn’t make the ult actually good.
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His statistics are complete garbage in all ranks, including GM where he has a negative winrate and 0.9% pickrate.
Especially if we want bunker to go, you want to buff winston.
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I think the global armor nerf + dmg creep just put Winston on a bad spot. His dmg in fine, ult is still good. They really just need to revert the global armor nerf
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Mass nerf would be the best way to stop damage creep, but … Yeah.
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with 2-2-2 rework, i assume he will be slightly buffed to fit his role.
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Doubt it, it means more healers and tanks in the game. They make his job hell.
All he needs is 5 more damage on primal
He hasn’t really been hit since double sniper where he was pretty dominant on high ground heavy maps, which was immediately after his complete dominance in dive. It’s really just a meta thing as far as I can tell.
Rein was basically useless until GOATS came around. He was balanced but waiting for a more advantageous metagame.
Unless we see Hammond dive completely strangle Winston dive, I see no reason for Winston to be buffed.
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He needs some form of sustain, in this world of ridiculous incoming damage right now…
I seriously feel so bad for Winston players, even when they’re in the enemy team. 
Well if he could get his ult faster…
I dunno. Feels like he still gets melt even during his ult now. I’d say some sort of a heal/sustain/armor buff. ANYTHING to survive a bit more, really.
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there’s no reason to play winston when you can play WB
Please go ahead and buff him and watch people enjoy dying to him in 1v1s without reasonable counterplay (even more). If the balance between tanks have to be altered, then nerf other main tanks.
Winston is pretty good. He is not great on all maps or enemy types, but you do quite well with Winston. The main issue I think is people do not have the patience to work with Winston. Winston requires full health and no cooldowns before moving in.
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Well if you have to nerf any tanks, it’s obviously Orisa and (maybe) slightly Hog. But then snipers become even more of an issue than they are right now, so you’d need to finally nerf them both alongside Orisa/Hog.
It’s simply too much work as opposed to just buffing Winston, Which also means he’d deal better with BS like Hanzo farming him with storm arrows…
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OP, if healers like Ana were a problem he wouldn’t have nearly shut her out completely during his reign in dive. He is meant to dive supports, not try to outdamage something being healed by them. If you play Winston as a frontline tank you absolutely fail at him.
The armor changes overall helped him, his weapon did terribly against armor and he himself had the least amount of it of all the main tanks.
Dive is not strong right now, and Winston cannot function outside of it. That’s all there is to it. Saying he has bad stats when in a Goats-meta-turned-bunker is like…DUH? The worst possible comps for Winston.
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Hanzo is losing one of his storm arrows, and could be nerfed more. Widow is only meta because of tanks/healing being what they are. She’s been unchanged for ages apart from the grappling hook adjustments.
If the devs have learned anything from the effects of content such as Doomfist, Brig, Moira, goats, and this current garbage meta, they won’t buff Winston.
Winston isn’t weak, he’s just not meta.
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Winston is a joke in this meta…
They definitely need to do this.