Didn’t think of throwing the hammer…
This would be a ridiculous, but awesome change.
I’m totally sold on the idea of reworking shields out of the game now.
If you’re going to make changes, they might as well be massive and slightly stupid ones.
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Brigitte is still one of the best supports to pick compared to most every option being pretty poor. Repair pack goes through shield which is one of the ONLY healing options in the entire game. Inspire can help an ally even if they cross the shield threshold.
She has the tools to attempt to stay away from him, but yeah, she lost a lot of tools against him. You pretty much NEED to hit him mid leap in order to get the best effect out of whipshot and be ready to shield bash 180deg away from him.
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i consider d.va easier as monkee, because a bad jump can’t be fixed.
but its rather hard to fly at a wrong location.
Doom meta >>>>>>>>>>> Hell >>>>>>>>>>> Orisa meta >>>>>>> Winston meta >> mauga meta
his bubble lasts too long. it’s stronger than rams so why does it last longer. the bubble should give him enough time to get jump back to get out and thats it. a dive tank shouldn’t have a better barrier than an immobile one and he could eat an hp nerf unless the armor gets changed.
Coincidently, I just played a game where I somehow managed to go like 20-5 as Winston.
To be fair though, it was not an absolute stomp. It was on Blizz World, and the opposing team really pushed us into the very end. I was literally sweating all match over how damn good the other team was, especially the Bastion player who kept melting me into a pile of dust (shaking fist). The only reason why I managed to do so well was solely because our healers did a seriously good job. Heck, they were the only reason we clutched it out.
If you were in that game @shoegazer, I’m so sorry man lol. I know that must have felt like a hard loss after a sweaty 15 min game (felt like a 30 min game honestly).
Can’t we just agree that both teams did really well and move on though?
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I haven’t played comp in like 2 days
I’d argue dva has less counterplay since she has soo much armour rn even beams don’t counter her like they used to
Plus if you play with a high healing sup like Ana, kiri or Juno it’s the cheesiest shizz I’ve seen
Plus’s dva has quicker CDs and much much more dmg
If you’re supps have half a brain winny can’t really get much value BY HIMSELF but that’s not very common so I can understand why u feel that way
Plus I think you’re moreso referring to how oppressive his barrier feels rn not the character and the solution to that is characters like torb and bastion which also do happen to be much better at countering Winston as a whole than dva
DVA is the best tank rn and it’s but a pretty big margin
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My Brig just really sucks, HOWEVER: I will definitely keep those tips in mind next time I face off vs monke with her.
Even brig ana can’t keep up with winston cleaving both.
This never happened before, you lost by default against Ana brig.
But thanks to armor a ridiculous long lasting bubble on a 10 sec cooldown with 700 hp.
You can 1v5 the lobby. And it’s even easier than dva because you don’t need any mechanics whatsoever.
Played a game yesterday agains reaper, bastion, Ana, brig and still 1v5 the lobby.
Brainrotten balance team, tries to please silver players.
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I’m just going to reply with your own words:
Something to think about.
I don’t see the point here
He’s a cheesy hero nowadays that necessitates counterpicking
Back to this point, no the enemy team shouldn’t be making your experience better, but again a lot of these heroes that don’t make your experience better are at least punishable, or haven’t been buffed to the moon for many seasons, and if they were, they get put back in line. Cass was dominating and didn’t make the enemy team’s experience better and he was overpowered so he got nerfed in multiple areas in the last two seasons, same went for Pharah who made the game miserable, they get nerfed
Like surely they understand that keeping tanks this overpowered makes the game miserable for all 3 roles, dps and support you got Kaiju’s farming your backline, completely unpunishable, and for the tanks themselves they need to be hard countered to be neutered to the point that they can’t just roll the enemy team for no effort
A hero being S tier and running a lobby is effectively the same interaction as swapping to a hard counter and running the lobby if there are no swaps. It’s winning through imbalance and people don’t find it fun.
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What about hard countering an S tier hero
Try playing him some time. He is not easy to play, and the other team will straight up swap to hard counter you, so you cant even enjoy how strong he is right now.
You can just mirror. The point is that being forced to swap to heroes isn’t fun and neither is losing due to imbalance.
I did play him last season lol ended masters 4 a 74% winrate after 58 games. in my personal experience the amount of games where the enemy team actually swapped to mauga bastion torb was so limited and overblown that it made me stop taking tank counterpick complaints seriously
thing is if i’m actually complaining about something i’ll 100% have tried it myself and formed an opinion of it based on the experience of playing as and against it
this season i’m only playing dva tho gotta prove a point about her being op
I can and do. DvA is overhated, Winston being meta is overrated.
Armor changes broke the hero and a lot of other tanks. He doesn’t need a nerf to his kit, armor should get reverted.