Again, being close to your tank is not babysitting.
Hog v Mauga
You are dependent entirely on your team to counterswap Mauga. You as the Hog are never going to be the reason you win, and are only going to be the reason you lose.
We all know, we poke at the likes of him and Garrett for funsies
Yea, swapping and counter swapping has always been a thing, it’s part of the game. Current issue is how easy counter swapping the solo tank is to get value. Especially if the tank and DPS swap to counter your tank, they are now out of the game unless they then swap themselves.
wow who knew that a solo tank rushing into by himself was going to die! Even in 5v5 doing something this stupid would get you killed so this is one of the strawmans of all times
this is the same guy that took samito’s claim and then twisted it so badly that samito came to the forums to roast this guy
Wait, Neon’s famous on YouTube
Please show me the way to this epic display
Huh? I’m not surprised but would you mind elucidating me on this topic as I’d like a laugh. 
You can’t really counter swap two tanks if they synergize together. Two synergized tanks are designed to cover each other’s weaknesses. It’s why nothing died in OW1 if you had the proper comp. You just looked at each other until one side got enough ults to try and burn down the other team. It was pressure, pressure, maneuver, then ult.
Samito hadn’t made a response on the forums since 2020, and he broke that streak to slap down Neon.
PEAK
id admit, neon’s statement was just straight up slander, samito was in the right for this statement and its still funny how neon tried to move the goalpost and justify his view
Counterswapping didn’t give a small advantage lol if a team was dominating on dive the other team swapped to antidive or lost. Same for any other playstyle. Players countered dive with brig/brawl. Players tried to counter double sniper with goats. Tried to counter goats with 1/4/1. They tried to counter double shield with doom/symmetra. If all else failed they mirrored. Counterswapping was a huge factor in OW1
Counterswapping was always “essential” what you’re referencing is bad players not using synergy or caring/being capable of counterswapping
Two competent teams vsing eachother utilized counterswapping, always
How does Dva/Sigma stop Mauga from shredding their Hog just by “being close”? They don’t… they have to babysit them with their defensive abilities
Not true. The Hog and his teammates can try to avoid Mauga and hook and kill Maugas teammates instead of counterswapping to directly kill Mauga
Mauga v Hog doesnt just autowin for Mauga
Imagine falling for samitos nonsense lol samito got exposed for not actually caring about tank players while pretending he does
you could counterswap to deal with a comp, not to just bully the solo tank, since the second tank can still provide help when the other tank isnt being stupid in all your strawman scenarios
Rock, DM, grasp, shield. Even in 5v5, Sigma is going to prioritize keeping Mauga in check to prevent him from just finding the second biggest target in Sigma’s backline because Sigma himself is not a consistently viable target. Why would that change in 6v6?
Hog cannot avoid Mauga. He doesn’t have mobility. Mauga does and will hunt him to the ends of the Earth.
Hog’s team is what will win the matchup, Hog himself is only ever going to lose the matchup by leaving his team with what is essentially an AFK tank.
You’re sorely mistaken if you think you couldn’t swap just 1 hero to bully a tank in OW1 lol. Tank was so unpopular in OW1 because of how easy it was to bully them
Just wait and see when the 6v6 tests are run, I warned ya
AKA babysitting, because as soon as any of those abilities end Hog is getting shredded
Hog doesn’t need mobility to take fights away from the Mauga. Hook has a 20m range, and if Mauga uses charge to W into Hog he has no escape and can be punished and die
There is no single swap that gives an autowin, never has been
Why do people use this idiotic argument of “counterswapping didn’t exist!”
“Solving the counterswap issue” does not mean get rid of it entirely. It existing was never the problem, it’s always existed in overwatch. The problem is that in 5v5 it’s overly effective to just go in spawn, click H, and gain an immediate and immense advantage over someone on the opposing team, mostly the tank.
Like can we please stop being dense for 2 seconds. You never saw people rave on about counterswapping as much as it gets raved on in 5v5… think. Why is that? It’s almost as if it’s overly effective now in 5v5 and wasn’t as big of a problem in 6v6!
Not to mention any of those problems that DID exist in 6v6 were the cause of the game being riddled with hard stuns.
in combination with the fact there were barely any tanks to choose from, the insane amount of hard CC that was ridiculously easy to hit on tanks on the basis of being the largest characters in the game, but we choose to ignore that infavour of the 5v5 agenda and blame it on 6v6 when it was the incompetence of the devs to just hard nerf all of these
the 6v6 code was already tested by Spilo,
his gripe with the gamemode is there being less space and the newer OW2 tanks just sucking in 6v6 on the basis of being terrible tanks concepts
sombra? Hello? bye bye widow, doom and wreckingball
These are workshop made tests, not an official one. Can’t wait till they bring that out.
The codes still give us an insight on how 6v6 may turn out, especially on new gamemodes or new maps which is better than just going in blind
You could literally play any tank into any comp in OW1 up until mid-masters, then it started to be a problem.
GOATS wasn’t played under top 500
6v6 doesn’t mean “no one can counter you.” it means
“I want to play Doomfist, but their roadhog keeps hooking me and so I just get wrecked. Oh, but Zarya is here and can bubble me! I’m safe from hooks now! I can play what I want even if there’s a real counter to my game plan!”