It feels like everyone has steadfast. It’s gotten so stale to the point I’ve started playing brig and hog and had better success with environmentals…
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i wouldnt get your hopes up honestly. im also a ball player and i feel that pain
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Whenever blizzard arbitrarily nerfs something to “bring it in line” with other things, that usually translates to “this is a flat nerf and will most likely never be reverted.”
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Probably not. Even though his knockback was exactly the same since release, and once they nerfed it it felt terrible for the Hammond players
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Probably not. I think getting rid of Wrecking Ball as a playable hero was the desired effect, and they got it.
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“Aggressive balancing to force meta shifts,” to paraphrase Jeff.
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Yeah, but also, I think in the last year they’ve also pursued an aggressive policy of deliberately ruining unpopular heroes.
I woukd not expect Wrecking Ball, or for that matter Sigma or Orisa to ever be playable again.
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Definitely. This has been an ongoing trend since late 2019 when they began systematically dismantling Support heroes in response to the witch hunts.
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Yeah, each role is going to get pared down to a small set of heroes that people don’t bawl over. For tanks, that’s Rein and Zarya and maybe Winston.
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Don’t forget about hog!
Everybody likes a cheesy hook! 
For supports, it’ll probably be narrowed down to the 2016 big 4:
Lucio, Ana, Zen, Mercy.
Yep, sounds about right for supports.
For DPS it’ll be Tracer Genji McCree Widow with a few others TBD, possible Ashe and Soldier 76.
It also means that all future new heroes will quickly be dumpstered after launch.
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[cries in dutch] 
It may help us to understand what your talking about with game replay codes.
Post some of your game replay codes. Point out where (time stamps) you believe an environmental kill should have occurred.
Please…show us what you mean. I am eager to see Hammond environmental kill denials.
My hope is that at least for OW2 they will, since they’re currently planning on giving every tank Steadfast.
Or maybe not, maybe he’ll just be even worse then…
It’s really not just environmentals to be honest. It’s that you boop people and it feels like it has barely any effect, especially when they hold down the opposite direction. You used to be able to displace + gang up, but now the displace is just so much worse.
When my heroes play against Hammond they still feel disrupted from a roll by…
I don’t understand what the complaint is when Hammond is still annoying when he isn’t countered properly.
The problem is that any new heroes competes with/displaces players from old heroes and that makes people upset.
So we’ll keep throwing them away to save the badly designed initial launch ones.
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No, because he was meta once and that means he will always be hated by the community from now on.
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Ball has been low-key meta for over a year on xbox.
Symmetra is also annoying when not countered properly, even though she sucks hardcore.
If they reduced Sombra’s hack to 2s, it would still be “annoying”, but Sombra players would be well within their rights to cry foul because they just gutted the thing that most of her kit was built around.
Same issue with Ball. You can think he’s annoying, but he is no longer good at the main thing that he’s meant to do.
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