why do people want her nerfed/and or buffed? I mean she does what she is supposed to do, she is a sniper to pick off people on the enemy team and deals a reasonable amount of damage, if anything i feel like she is one of the most balanced heroes in the game.
she is fine where she is at 
link to ppl wanting her nerfed or buffed? i dont see anyone complaining about her
The rifle is fine, the abilities need a rework.
Widowmaker, aside from Tracer, is the hardest hero to change. Buffing her would make her unstoppable in higher ranks. And nerfing her would make her horrible in all ranks.
Because at lower levels people struggle to use her, and at higher levels she can be really good, kind of like Tracer in that way. I also think she’s in a pretty good place.
I really don’t see too many people asking for Widowmaker nerfs/buffs as much as I simply see people talk about her.
She definitely doesn’t need any buffs, not without some kind of nerf to compensate. I do think Widowmaker’s balance is a little weird, though. It’s unfortunate that there’s a hero that’s realistically inaccessible to most of the community but is also a high reward hero on top of being pretty much necessary to counter certain heroes/comps.
I think one of my biggest issues, and the issue most people have, is that Widowmaker isn’t fun to play against, at all. I know, obviously dying isn’t supposed to feel fun, but there’s very little engagement in the situation of “Widowmaker was across Ilios Ruins and sniped me ten feet outside my spawn door.” You can play behind shields but ultimately you’re just always gonna be at risk unless someone devotes themselves to killing Widowmaker, since Widowmaker has all the tools to give herself the advantages she needs. And part of that is necessary, obviously, it makes her kit what it is, but at the same time, it’s just plainly frustrating to join a game where a try-hard Widowmaker is just going to dominate unless you’re willing to delegate yourself to being a Winston to counter her, or you somehow, with god-like powers I imagine, managed to convince someone else to swap.
That’s probably my biggest pain. She has very few real counters and if a Widow player is committed to playing well, you’re immediately pushed into a corner of not having fun. If Widowmaker keeps getting her headshots, there isn’t anything you can do to stop that. What little you can do is just likely to work against you, since there are still, you know, five other enemies to worry about.
I don’t know how to “fix” Widowmaker, really. If it was my game, there would be zero traditional snipers, I’ve never enjoyed the sniping experience on any end and for these very reasons, but that’s obviously not gonna happen here. You can’t really change her damage because she needs to be able to dish that out, but you can’t touch any other part of her kit either because it’s all too weak or already quite powerful enough.
The best answer, I suppose, is that there should be more Widowmaker counters – I’d love to see a support or tank hero that can nullify critical hits, actually, like putting down a field where allies don’t take additional damage from boosters or headshots. Just something that can help support a team against a Widowmaker that doesn’t force them all behind a single barrier treading forward one mile an hour. It just feels like there’s no reasonable response to a good Widowmaker the way there are responses for pretty much any other hero.
Her abilities are boring which makes her not fun to play…
She doesn’t need anything for now. She is in a very good spot.
Grapple is the buggiest ability in the game. Don’t @ me.
They should give her the option to grapple to the next location or hang from it, make her more like the video. But that would really make her broken. That is literally the only buff I could think of happening for her. Her ult is kind of meh, but can be very practical IMO. It gives a red flag to flankers coming in, where a turret is hiding (I think), if someone is around the corner, and even better. Where enemy Widow is hiding.
Maybe being able to aim it instead of aiming at the general direction of an object?
there should be more Widowmaker counters
I’m sorry, but really? Winston, D.Va, and Genji are all pretty hard counters. Heroes like Sombra, Tracer, Orisa, and Doomfist all also do really well in terms of making her ineffective. Even Zen will get some right click snipes on her every once in a while. Sure, a really good Widow can be hard to shut down, but that’s the point of heroes with insanely high skill caps.
Personally I haven’t had to much of a problem with the grapple, it does help you auto lock on to a standing spot, which is good if your aim was off. But I know what you mean, that would be useful when getting away at times.
Fun is a matter of opinion. I find her very fun to play and not boring at all.
Lul she doesn’t need a buff, she’s borderline op at high level a good WidowMaker changes how a match is played buff her and she’ll be oppressive in high elo play
Winston and D.va are the only real counters you listed, and they’re certainly not hard counters. While they can certainly quickly reach the places a Widow will camp, they also have to leave their team (generally) in order to reach that location, and even after that, there’s still inter-play to be had. Widow can get a headshot on these tanks easily just before the engagement happens, she can drop down from her position and force the tank to follow just so she can grapple hook back into place, or she can just use the grapple hook to propel herself out of the effective distance of these tanks and kite them along. And since Widowmaker is in the back lines, she has easy access to her supports (generally).
Winston and D.va can at least apply pressure, but I have no idea where Genji comes into all of this. His potential to deflect a headshot back at Widow, I guess? But that’s very niche. Both him, Tracer, and Sombra have to work to get into position first to try and ambush Widow, and that means letting Widow live for the entire flank trip. I don’t know why Orisa and Doomfist got listed here, either. Doomfist has very predictable approaches and will get shot down long before he reaches Widow, and Orisa is, if anything, more prone to getting killed by Widow than other tanks, unless you’re opposing an offensive Widow that you can just bunker against.
I think adding Zen here would mean you also have to add Hanzo, Soldier, might as well toss Roadhog in there, because indeed, all of them, too, have the potential to catch Widowmaker off-guard. Doesn’t really make them a counter.
I disagree that a high skill cap justifies being hard to shut down. What that really says to me is, “The developers designed a bad hero and they make up for it by giving that hero a ton of power.” I’d rather Widowmaker just be accessible to more people and have her power output be even across all levels of play, instead of what we have now, where she’s trash at low levels but a necessity on most maps at the higher levels. And somewhere in the middle is just a mixed bag of frustrations where it feels like your team always has the bad Widows but the enemy always gets the good ones.
Either way, an additional counter in the roster to help fight against her? I don’t think that would absolutely eliminate her from the game, and honestly, even if it did, I personally gotta say that I wouldn’t miss being sent back to spawn because I didn’t see the flicker of her purple skin peeking out between two separate walls.
Only issue I have is the ZOOM, I would trade venom mine for extra Zoom level for larger maps / long distance shots.
I dont have many hours on her(like 3?) So my opinion isnt very good. I feel like Widow is in a good spot, like yeah it sucks to play against her but shes just fine. Her kit is p okay, I feel like she should have some other sort away of defending herself other than her mine because players can go around it or find a safer way to kill her. Maybe two mines?
With Brig now in the game, she already needed a rifle re-work. It will especially need a new re-work when they do the whole Hanzo 2.0 stuff. Trust me on this.