Why does Widow need to recieve less healing exactly? She’s very easy to kill with her already below average health and horrible close range game
And no to Hanzo
Essentially, Counterplay, as defined by the most senior game devs at Riot and Valve is as:
Counterplay = At all times, a player should have enough time and obviousness to react and counteract an opponents Play.
However every Sniper weapon breaks that Rule.
But they all have large downsides for the Sniper user, that are emotionally satisfying to their opponents to compensate for that emotional damage.
Widow and Hanzo are the only Sniper heroes in all of modern PVP FPS gaming, that don’t do that.
And there’s a lot of ways to address that. But the most minmaxed on “Minimal Damage to Sniper players” with “Maximum Satisfaction from reduced Frustration from everybody else”.
Is to get rid of this stuff.
Also a lot of how you used to deal with Widow is chip damage, which made her have downtime on a flank. Well now she doesn’t even have that.
And doing it this way compensates for that.
You definitely have enough time to counteract a Widow. Just because you died once not knowing they had a Widow doesn’t mean there’s suddenly nothing you can do.
You have infinite lives and a wide variety of characters to choose all of which can deal with Widow in some way. Make use of your tools.
Also why can’t you chip Widow anymore? Because supports heal? They’ve always done that my guy, any support beats chip damage and always has. That’s literally their job as a role.
How does a squishy player prevent themselves from dying, after they get headshot by Widow?
And I mean, IMMEDIATELY after, not 40 seconds later.
How have they ever done that? Widow has done the same damage for 8 years and the changes in health totals and health mechanics have only changed Torb’s interaction with her
What’s the counterplay to a hitscan one shot from 58 metres away after it’s already hit your head
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To not let it hit your head in the first place, and there’s many ways to do that
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Correct.
Immediately responding to counteract a Widow headshot, is physically impossible.
Which is fine, that’s the whole point
Please tell me these many ways. I don’t understand how to play against Widow and I need tips
But that’s my point.
That breaks counterplay rules.
And every other modern PVP FPS game in existence that’s not older than 20 years, addresses that issue, by offsetting the emotional damage, with a downside for the Sniper player that’s emotionally satisfying for their opponent.
Except Overwatch.
Thats why Widow is the strongest dps in bronze and terrible in GM right?
Hiding behind walls if you’re a support trying to heal
Staying under cover to attack targets in your view if that was already your goal
Utilizing barriers in order to attack from open space without worry of getting shot
Flanking around the Widow’s sight to attack her up close
Being a tank and just attacking her head on
And if you know the Widow isn’t totally cracked, then taking potshots at her to deal damage from cover
There are lots of ways to deal with Widow and every character has counterplay in some capacity. That’s part of why Widow is fine, the other part is that Widow isn’t doing anything degenerate. She has to aim her gun and shoot you, no tricks and no games, just all mechanics. If you get killed, you 100% deserved to die. She doesn’t even have an ultimate to pop in case of emergency like just about every other character does.
No, it doesn’t. Widow has lots of counterplay. Just because you can’t react to the shot doesn’t mean the counterplay isn’t there.
You can’t react to any hitscan attack, so if Widow is a problem fundamentally, then it’s a problem spanning all of the hitscan characters. Given the game was designed around them though, I’d say it’s not a problem.
Which other hitscan can one shot across the map?
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Do you think Counters and Counterplay are identical terms?
Do you think, a Game, and Gameplay are identical terms?
If so, who are you quoting for that?
If a Restaurant had food that tastes bad, would claiming that it’s “Technically Edible” be good enough?
None, and that’s good. We only need the one, anymore than that absolutely would be oppressive. That’s why they nerfed the Ashe/Mercy combo after all.
There’s not “technically counterplay”
There’s counterplay
You should stop reading and start thinking
Okay I’m really just curious now what your rank is since you somehow don’t think Widow’s design is oppressive lmao
You just keep dancing around it. Other one shots that required more setup or two heroes to work are problematic but not the hero that has a one shot tied to her primary fire?
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Which world class gameplay designer are you citing for that.
Because I’m citing the most senior gameplay designers at Riot and Valve.
So who?