Widowmaker is utterly dominating OW2

Not everywhere, however it seems like the same chokes Widowmaker used to be able to command in 6v6, in 5v5 I see even T500 streamers being utterly helpless against her. and since there is one less tank, there are now more sightlines for Widowmaker to feast on.

whereas high elo players will struggle vs Widow because Widow players are so accurate and fast, in low Elo I still expect Widow to be just as much of a menace because there is so little protection and worse coordination.

I don’t think Widowmaker should not be a 1hk to the headshot, it is a skillshot, but with only one tank that isn’t always a shield tank, Widowmaker in OW2 is on her to way to become even more opressive than she was before.

Blizzard will probably need to find a way to nerf Widowmaker without taking away her skillshot.

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and Doom & to a lesser extent Rein. The beta is full of tryhards playing their mains for easy kills.

EDIT: Sojourn too but obviously not because of people playing their mains. Hope she isn’t as oppressive when OW2 goes live.

Calling others tryhards is an easy way to call yourself a scrub without saying it imo.

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Oh I’m not the greatest but it doesn’t help that I’m playing more than 1 hero.

I doubt it - they’ve said constant times that Sojourn is too good, but they wanted to see how she performed in the beta before hitting her with nerfs as internal playtests aren’t anywhere near as accurate when compared to public playtests.

She’s definitely a high skill cap hero, so I doubt too much will change. But I can definitely see a reduction to how quick she gains charge for her secondary fire and probably a reduction in damage in general will be a start, along with maybe another increase to her combat slide’s cooldown

she’s like a C tier hero no? from what I’ve seen at least

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Honestly really surprised that the only change for Widow was a buff. Like, 175 HP was a good thing imho.

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It’s not surprising, old maps were barely touched and new maps are more of the same.

They actually did nerf widow as she can’t 1shot heroes with armor anymore (armor is now a flat 30% damage reduction instead of a -5). So, play more heroes with armor… I guess.

Is that in the patch notes? Idr

Yes, it’s under “Health Changes”:

 Base Armor health pools reduce incoming damage by 30 percent

   It no longer mitigates damage by the previous flat amount of -5 damage per hit
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watching kephrii play my favorite blue baby widowmaker is making me nervous. dude is just annihilating everyone real dirty like. so yea i wouldnt doubt if she gets nerfed by the pros later. hopefully not soon so i can enjoy her a bit lol

She was hit with multiple nerfs during the closed alpha people had access to apparently.

Someone said they added more obstacles like cars, but then you see the cars on the first hill on Dorado and realise they offer zero protection from Widow - they are too low to hide behind. Not sure what their goal was there.

Yah, I saw on a YouTube video. It does nothing to solve the actual issue which is high ground. You already had cover for the lower level.

That’s the issue with cart levels, you are pushing a cart that is vulnerable to high ground then proceed to add a lot of high ground in the level.

Not significant ones - It was an increase to her combat side’s cooldown by 1 second and an increase to her ultimate cost. She’ll likely get some sizeable nerfs for the second beta

Interesting change. I do feel like tanks with armor feel really hard to kill right now

The only hero this applies to is Torb. Every other hero with armour already couldn’t be one-shot, with the exception of Brig who still dies to 210 damage.

All pros aim for ankles obviously.

And you have an objection to playing torb so that you don’t get 1-shot?