Widowmaker Does too Much

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Gonna put this in bullet point form for you, the reader. Keep an open mind please.
Widow currently

  • has a 1 shot with
  • no cooldown
  • no range limit
  • has an excellent mobility tool
  • has the same health as heroes with a third her mobility and damage

How should she be nerfed?
Pick one.

  • lower health, make her a glass cannon.
  • lower clip size so missing is actually punished
  • weaker mobility, whether it be a longer CD or less range on the hook
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Gonna put this in bullet point form for you, the OP.

  • In some, but not all cases. It’s also a skill shot.
  • False. An uncharged shot will not one-shot any full-health hero, and the process of charging can be considered a cooldown.
  • The current real-world sniping record is 3,540 meters, much larger than any Overwatch map.
  • …with a significant cooldown.
  • As I mentioned above, her mobility has such a significant cooldown attached to it that when she uses it she’s incredibly vulnerable, and her damage has a built-in cooldown.
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she is powerfull but not op a garbage widow is uselss and a good widow is counterable

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Widowmaker has a 1 shot same as half the hero pool tbh, with the difference that hers is harder to hit.

She also had cooldown to charge her shot.

Her mobility has actually a long af cd and is not even close to again half the heropool.

Most importantly she is arguably the hardest to play hero in the game. While scoped she is basically standing still and has 40fov. Unscoping can fix that by making her useless for the time.

She is neither played much more than average in any sr (see overbuff and other stats sites).
Not even in pro play with the best of the best aimers she is meta.

And she has good counter play as she is useless against shields, dive, flanks ect.

I really dont see any issue with her at all.

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Literally yesterday we were getting owned by enemy widow. Couldnt do anything and the other dps locked my main hero (Hanzo) and was doing very bad with it. I tried Soldier and Ashe, didnt work.

Then I just picked widow myself and destroyed enemy team. We won straight away because enemy widow lost 3 times 1v1 duel to me.

Widow needs nerfs since long ago.

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Nope.

Best nerf, you quitting the game, problem solved.

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She doesnt need nerf.

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Blizz needs to get nerf

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Missing shots already can be punished, since enemy will just hide behind cover or shield.

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  • that doesn’t matter when it comes to hero design in OW
  • If it was significant people wouldn’t be wasting it for trick shot attempts.
  • she is usually positioned in the backline, 10sec isn’t much unless you have high coordination.

She is too forgiving with he potential damage output, OP is right poor hero design.

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We could argue that she has cooldown since you need to wait some milliseconds to get a full power shot.

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I actually find widow much less frustrating to play against compared to any other one shot hero tbh, most of the other oneshots are extremely random, whereas 99% of the time that a widow kills you she actually meant to do that, unlike let’s say a hanzo killing you trying to shoot someone else or spamming a corner, or a hog hook that legit missed you or was meant for someone else or somehow went through the tank in front of you and hooked you in the back.
well, doomfist punches and any of his cds at this point can deserve a paragraph on their own. the thing I hate the most about this game aren’t the oneshots but the randomness of the oneshots spam you can die to, since you can’t really predict that anymore, you can’t be better with your positioning or game sense
or skill cause the visual clutter it generates, and cause it’s random…
you died randomly… screw that

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skill doesnt mean balance. if a hero does too much, they do too much.

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if u think widow is op its because u let the widow too much space for no reason and she has time to get free headshots

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She literally only needs half a second of LOS to get a kill. That’s stupid. My tanks cannot deny that 24/7.

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See what you did?

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