All I see on the forums is people trying to degrade these high skilled heroes. Genji and Widow are difficult to play, and nobody can change this fact. Sure they can one shot kill, but it’s pretty difficult to do so. If it’ s so easy to click 4head then why isn’t that level 15 in qp who instalocks widow killing everybody? Everybody takes skill, no matter who.
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I disagree but I dont feel like explaining why so I will be back later.
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Is this a jebait post? I’m not sure
But the people who say that widow and genji take no skill are the same people stuck in plat but don’t play either one , despite being " so easy to play, just click heads 4Heads"
Heroes that take no skill imo was mass rez mercy , brig is easy to play in goats , but still requires a brain.
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‘The only heroes that are hard to play, are the ones that I main.’
Forum logic
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Here’s the thing about Widow; anybody that’s been playing FPS games for years can pick up widow easy and do well with her, especially veterans of TF2 and CS. Her kit is extremely bland and easy to use thanks to hitscan.
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Genji takes skill for sure.
Widow, however, is easiest character in the game. I have no appreciation for people who stand a mile from the action and don’t help their team at all, regardless of what character they play. No teamwork, no gamesense, no dexterity. Just point and click until your team is dead then grapple back to the next safe spot.
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Regardless of how powerful they actually are, the problem with those characters is that against a skilled player, they’re rather miserable and un-interactive to play against. Vs Widow, if you’re not playing the handful of characters that can gap-close, you either cower behind a shield for the whole game or just spam jump and hope you’re lucky. If you’re not, you have to stop playing the game at random intervals. The worst thing about Genji is that all of his PTOG’s look exactly the same, and they give me motion sickness.
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Once you understand the heroes a bit, they’re pretty simple. compared to something as complex as Hammond. this doesn’t mean one takes less skill than the other
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One argument against this that has been said before is that widow is not the only hero who relies on accuracy. But unlike others who do that, she does it from a safe position. Having less things to worry about sure makes things easier.
And same idea can be said for genji. Due to his high mobility and high damage output, he’s not a glass cannon that i think he was designed to be, but a glass cannon that can dodge damage due to mobility, mitigate a lot of damage with deflect, and do a lot of his own damage in the proccess. So unlike low mobility heroes who might do the same damage as him (or less), he has the upper hand. That makes him easier to play than others.
I’m sorry for all the widow/genji mains that are insulted by this. I’m sure I’m generalizing way too much and leaving out a lot of hardships with counters that they have to deal with, but coming from a zen main this is my opinion of them. Sorry.
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I don’t main either, I play brig and DVA. You have quite some for yourself. 28 hours on brig 20 on dva.
I like that a lot of the people I have discussed this with are also on the “more tracer counters” front. when I tell them how widow requires skill, they say: “its so easy to aim and kill, widow is even strong in close range”
then in the very next thread where I defend tracer and point out the counters, they say: “but you have to aim to do that! that isnt countering!”
people are so lazy when it comes to countering. and who even says Widow is good at cqc? Her smg does like 0 damage and has horrible spread.
It wasn’t necessarily directed at you personally, I just ‘quoted’ the general sentiment that reigns on the forums about the ‘skill’ thing lately.
And how tf do I have 28 hours on Brig? My profile’s supposed to be outdated by 2 years because the internet profile doesn’t take arcade into account. (And I doubt that I’ve accumulated already that much on Brig, need to check it in game)
Widow is the TF2 sniper on easy
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I kinda worded that weirdly, I meant to say I have 28 hours on brig and 20 on DVA.
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They have high skill ceilings but some people act like the have exceptionally high skill floors which is a fallacy, same for Tracer. The inherent design of their kits gives some nice advantages at at lower tiers that only intellectually honest players will admit to.
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Nonsense. Skill intensive heroes such as Brig takes high skill. A squishy hitbox with a very unforgiving shield that only has 500 hp. Add to that landing whips wich take immense aim and prediction on top of gamesense. Not to mention knowing when to swing your mace back and forth.
However braindead heroes like genji just presses shift and they will automatically teleport to nearest enemy and one shot them. Disgusting.
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This sounds like something that someone who doesn’t know how to deal with Widow would say.
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If she was easy she could stand a mile back from the action and still be helping. The fact that that widow on your team is doing nothing is proof that the hero is too hard for them.
I play both genji and brig, and I find playing Genji way more difficult. It’s super hard to one shot, because you have to perfectly time the dash, and then the fan of shurikens to the head.