I never realized how giving this hero more mobility would make her THIS useful. I finally had a game where I managed to only die once as Widowmaker thanks to being able to reposition myself quickly + the 3 grapples are just fun in general.
Can we discuss a way to buff Widow’s grapple? From 12 seconds to 8 pwetty pwease? 
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Lack of mobility is supposed to be her weakness
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We kind of went through that in ow1. She was too mobile, so they reverted it.
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It is definitely more fun, the whole mode feels more fun just in general.
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Keep the mobility, but knock her down to 150hp.
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it may happen since venture is a pretty good widow counter as well. i wonder… i know widow is doing well a the highest tiers but worse in lower. i wonder if they will change widow in a way to smooth it out but that sounds like a rework
we may get ashe 2.0 someday. or they will leave her as is and of course only the right hands would be deadly with widow. the 5 percent.
but yea… the april fools day patch is so fun. feel like spider man a little
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At that time she also had a faster charge time, 200hp (today it would be 250), no Damage falloff and Sombra was way less threatening than today. So she was strong at that time but not because of 8/10 sec Grapple alone.
Considering that many heros nowadays come with specific passives (venture has 2 unique ones). It would fit if Widow atleast got that Passiv and/or a second charge (3 charges are to strong).
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It’s less likely than in OW1 because she had two strong counters (dive and double shield), giving her more mobility answers dive and double shield no longer exists.
Lack of what ? These are pre April patch
Let her be this way as in normal patch, the destruction is too good to sacrifice, I need moar vengeance for hanzo.
You actually didn’t crib about one shot are you getting gud 
It is meant to be a silly fun mode. Obviously the balance is terrible. But for a few days of people playing it, that’s totally fine. Now if this was the base mode, I think the fun would wear off pretty quickly.
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I thought her weakness was 200 hp? Or 70% movement speed reduction while scoped in (her only means of doing reasonable damage). Or her range nerf that prevents her from one-shoting. Or the fact that she has to charge her shots.
But hey, she one shots so she must be nerfed infinitum
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Do people not get how snipers work?
Massive damage potential from range at the cost of mobility/survivability
She’s supposed to be vulnerable…you’re not supposed to have to chase her around the map
The last thing you want to touch on her (balance wise) is her mobility/escapability
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Ok but this is once every 13 seconds
Instead of 3 charges and being able to do grapple shots and relocate way more
the 200hp (that they rolled back from 175), the range nerf (that they rolled back entirely), the fact that she has to charge her shots (that she can use to snipe heroes that cannot interact with her in the first place, now with BIGGER bullets)
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Absolutely not. Fighting against good Widows in this mode is hell, they never die and have free rain over the entire map.
I’ve had matches in the mode where 1 Widow dominates the entire thing by herself.
True but if it loses her dmg or hp it may not be worth it