Why you can't fix the smurf problem dudes?

Gold game, met a symm no icon wich played like a god, ofc turret bombs, flanks , think we could do something?

Of course no, golds can’t do a single thing when a smurf from some higher rank is in their game.

fix the problem because we’re sick of it,

the whole team didn’t even played (and did the only thing they can do)

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ranked for sure is especially bad. I cant imagine dealing with it there. Quickplay is bad enough.

Blizzard knows there is a problem. But they ignore it and wont go back on an idea

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F2P game, and smurfing makes up the majority of OW content.

Plus, smurfs are honestly a non issue and always have been. There aren’t enough in the matchmaking pool at any given time to affect someone’s rank

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Imho its agains business model (F2P). The more accounts the better for business.

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alt accounts and smurfing are a huge problem, but they inflate reportable player count, which is good for marketing.

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Flanking and turret bombs aren’t exactly difficult or mechanically intense

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ok in gold, maybe you’ll have diamonds smurfing. Get to plat/diamond, maybe you’ll have masters smurfing. Get to diamond, maybe have GMs smurfing. You either enjoy the grind and enjoy ranked for what it is, or just forget about it. Not sure what they can do about smurfs. I don’t think they’ll ban accounts for winning games.

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Replay codes?

Cause this Sym “god” is probably a Plat.

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ye dude but at least in diamond people know what to do.

They got rid of the any barrier to make an alt. The phone number req was at least a hindrance/ hassle.

The ximmers on console just made new accounts and you can see them flood diamond and up.

The cheaters will come back. A ban doesn’t do much.

New player experience is easy to grind out.

No barrier, nothing to deter, and also bad matchmaking. (In favor of queue times vs a quality game).

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Yea new accounts have always been free on console even before f2p

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Yep, they either make the new player experience triple the length (aka a new player will benefit/ all heroes unlocked from start, just make the win req higher, that’ll give new player a lot more time to learn)- or they do a phone number verification system again FOR SURE on console and pc. It’s way too easy to make an alt rn and grind out a day to get into comp, get banned, repeat the cycle. I cannot take the game seriously anymore because of it. I no longer try as hard as i used to.

edit: BUT THEY’LL JUST BUY A NEW NUMBER. Oh no, they have to continuously pay money each time they make an account AND grind out 150 wins (something like that to make the grind longer). We need deterrents, lots of them. Console/ System bans will be great too.

BUT OH NO, THAT’LL RUIN THE GAME FOR A PERSON WHO BUYS A USED CONSOLE. (I’m sorry, people should be buying NEW consoles/PCs, not used ones… if you’re gonna buy, save… and wait slightly longer). Well dang, it will hurt the cheater more. They have to buy a WHOLE NEW SYSTEM or VPN it out. (VPNs cost more money)…MORE MONEY gone so they can cheat.

Countless people always have something to say but these draconian measures will make it such a hassle to get banned and make a new account.

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So this what happens if you reset the ranks in general. Beacuse i was a diamond player pushing into the higher ranks. And am now in the mix of the gold players and plat players. With other diamonds and people that have never touched aggro playstyle in their life.

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people were using IP phone cheats for this already and Blizzard broke certain Federal use violations if I am not mistaken when requiring a cell phone to login…

Same with paypal and Bread financing looking at facing some massive lawsuits as well as other companies requiring a cell phone to make payments and to login with. These devices become stolen, rendered inoperable, people not being able to pay their account or access their phone due to network attacks and network errors on 4G and 5G.


Plus Phones don’t really deter people from using SMS generation and people that were starting to sell phone numbers to register accounts on.

If anything they shoulda just went on up to Paywall first, and then moved up to State ID requirements.

I dont think that would sit well with a lot of people though so it is what it is.

When did they get rid of the phone number requirement? As of a month ago it was still required for all PC accounts created since OW2 launch

Simple: Money.
Smurfs boost the player number. They never cared about the quality of the game or the players.

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Thats what i was bout to say. Blizz doesnt care about us since smurfs give them money. But i they keep like this, this game gonna be dead not so far in a near future.

Anyways i really feel u. The other day i find a 5 stack smurf team, one of them with mouse and keyboard on console, which is a huuuge boost. I didnt remerber the last time i played without a smurf on a game, So i just quit.

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how would you fix it? The moment we try to use a metric to gauge how good a player is, it will have unintended consequences

e.g. high healing on support as a means healbots get artificially boosted
high damage on dps means players who cant finish off kills and just shoot tank all game gets boosted

there is no particular method to finding and calibrating smurfs except through their hard stomping, where their true elo finally catches up with them

Not against GM players. The difference between a GM and a diamond player is like the difference between a bronze and a plat player

I see more Smurfs and xims in quick play when watching streamers. I feel so sorry for the console losers that still play this