Yeah no.
I am not busting my butt off killing 3 tanks and a Brig just so they can come back because Mercy is under a bridge or something.
Goats fight are already long and drawn out because of the massive amount of healing, and with a Mass Res Mercy add into it, might as well get a pillow and blanket to watch and play a snore fest.
Most tanks lack the mobility to find a hiding Mercy anyways, so good luck countering Mass Res Goats.
If you want to get nit picky then you are correct the devs never said word for word that she was a “must pick” at 60/hps. But in the same 60-50/hps nerf the developer comments do say:
" Developer Comments: Mercy’s previous healing output made her nearly irreplaceable in any team composition. Even after this change she will still be able to deliver more healing over the course of a match than any other support hero, but it should allow for other healers to be more viable."
They used the words “nearly irreplaceable.”
If a hero is irreplaceable in every team comp it is a must pick.
Note how they also state she will deliver more healing overall yet she is beaten out by Moira?
Or how because of this nerf she is now unable to balance out the use of her utility because she now has to focus on healing since she just cannot sustain?
It seems that “oh it’s a nit pick so their still right”-is at least what I’m getting from this reply.
I was just pointing out that he (megadodo) said “Factually, the devs did state that they felt she was a must pick at 60 hps.”
The developer comments did say they thought her “previous healing output made her nearly irreplaceable in any team comp.”
I feel that “irreplaceable in any team comp” is not very different from “must pick”.
Do you have any other examples of him using the term factually incorrectly? (He’s used the term many times)
That you don’t except it, doesn’t mean it has not been said.
Jeff Kaplan
I’d like to put the notion that Mercy will be reverted to rest
Both are not the case.
Mercy got reworked for valid reasons and current Mercy is more balanced than ever. There’s no reason to rework/revert just because some people are unhappy.
You’re…seriously asking me to go through their ENTIRE post history-which thanks to their profile being privated-means I would need to search user name and scroll through every forum post they’ve made…
(If I was paranoid I’d say you’re their smurf but I have no proof and I’d like to think people ate that desperate.)
When arguing the stats to Overbuff, which yes privated profiles have skewed their acurracy, but it was stated on the forum it was only around a 5% difference from then to now.
There was another where they’ve stated she “Factually can use Superjump by herself” It was called out and they retracted it so I can’t find that one.
It appears they’ve also deleted their “Factually there is no issue with stack AoE healing” since it looks like once again they were called out on it and edited.
So each time they are “incorrect” by they’re “factual statements” they correct them.
I’m sorry each time they say factual, and it’s proved to be incorrect they edit it, it just makes it seem that they can point back and go “I’ve always been right”
If he does value personal experience, then he used it correctly in this sentence.
“Factually, I think green is the best color.” I used the word factually correctly.
“Factually, green is the best color.” I used the word factually incorrectly.
And no, he and I are different people.
Alright you’re a troll.
You cannot say an opinion is fact.
Is an opinion, there’s not FACTS based on this, like at all, in the slightest.
Fact: a piece of information presented as having objective reality
Opinion: belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge
You CANNOT expect to to believe that you’re “opinion” can be considered fact just because you throw “factually” in front of it.
You’ve gotten 3 posts of my attention, but that’s all. Have fun/
It is a fact that I think green is the best color. What makes it a fact is the words “I think” are in the statement.
I’m not even trying to start a huge argument with you, I’m playing devils advocate.
But if you aren’t even going to debate me and just label me a ‘troll’, then that’s fine. Have a good one.
I fail to see the logical connection between “We don’t plan to revert Mercy anytime soon” and “Mass-Resurrect is never coming back in any form”.
Would you be so kind as to explain it, if you can?
You’ve triggered my trap card!
Hold this:
Sure, if you exclude Mercy’s pre-rework state.
Funny how this logic is applied now, but it wasn’t prior to the rework. 
Daily reminder that the developers of this game did not waste the time, money, and energy changing one hero just because some people complained on the forums. Stop saying this everyone
But’s that’s exactly what it was.
The complaints were nonexistent in season 4. In fact, most people still assumed that Mercy was a troll-pick.
And then season 5 hit, and complaints started appearing on social media about how Mercy, a D-tier hero, was somehow overpowered. Throw in a few streamers raging about their Q presses getting countered by someone else’s Q press, and poof! We have a Mercy rework!
Does it matter that she’s easy to play? In the right hands, mercy could easily be one of the more powerful characters on a team. Just because a characters easy to play, it doesn’t mean they have to be stuck in the lower ranks. Plus, the thing that people are asking for is to make mercy fun, not op and a must pick. Idk about other mercy players, but I hated how powerful valk was; to me it felt like a real mess of an ult to begin with, even before the endless stream of needs. And I don’t see how she’s a ‘mind numbing character’. Is that because of her low skill ceiling? What Reinhardt? He’s a one star tank, just like mercy’s a one star support. I’d rein a ‘mind numbing hero at the top’ too? He’s everywhere in GM
its more how she’s designed to play
no resource management, need to aim, reload independent use of her mobility
You can’t really inherently do any sort of skill expression there, it’s basically just GA and pistol use
Plus some people always found Mercy boring and don’t want her to be a must pick again, it’d just be boring for them
It’s really not as simple as that
People are asking for changes, not all of them are reasonable and balanced, some are, some make her weaker, some make her ridiculous, some find her fun just not impactful, some say she’s not fun because she’s not impactful, etc
The star difficulty just shows how easy it is to pick up a hero not how limited their skill ceiling is
I responded to Candi, basically saying that some people (such as yourself) will always be arguing for Mass Rez, and even if the devs said that it’d never be put in this game, you’d then argue that they can change their mind.
That’s fair, right? Pretty accurate. That was my response to Candi.
You then quoted and responded to what I said. The goal wasn’t to continue anything with you, you’re not irresistible. However, I am open minded to talking to you about Mercy.
I do now.
Cool. Read what I’ve said in your rework thread regarding Mass Rez etc and the 1:1-5 mechanic. All the posts are recent so you won’t have to look far. I’m waiting on people to get back to me sadface ![:frowning:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/frowning.png?v=6" ":frowning:")
Then hmu. Obviously you’re for Mass Rez, so might as well start there. Just throw your thoughts at me on that in this thread, as the other is approaching the 10k.
Look forward to it! ![:slight_smile:](https://d74zh8edaijub.cloudfront.net/en/overwatch/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
It’s the narrative that benefits their argument the most. They’ll stick with it. I don’t think there is a way to convince them that Mass Rez was changed for more than just “feels.” We’ll see though…
Mercy never left. She’s still in the game.
Whether you like the current Mercy or not, Mercy is balanced atm. Her pickrate is healthy and her average healing is on par with that of the other main healers.
And balancing on fun is impossible. Fun is subjective.
You might not like the current Mercy, but other might do. To whose fun do we balance Mercy?
That’s the crux of the issue. So many arguing for Mass Rez to be put back into the game do so because of feelings and such mainly. That stuff is just white noise. Your feelings are negated by the feelings of the other people in the game with you etc etc. Futile exercise.
The arguments for Mass Rez being in the game, in a game health, mechanical, sort of way, are weak at best. Nonsense most of the time.
It reminds me of addiction in a lot of ways. People just wanting a certain specific experience, don’t care the cost, and they’re mad upset if they can’t get it. 
Not good imho.
I just think have the option to put it in custom games where game health isn’t an issue. Mass Rez, Symm 2.0/1.0, Torb 1.0, Scatter Arrow-giving people who never had a chance to see these mechanics a place to try them to see if they can form their own opinions; and to those who miss them a chance to relive using them without hurting current gameplay modes.
Yeah I’m down for all the crazy options in customs tbh.