Hello, i have played a lot of tanks this season.
i was a master back then but now i player around play 5 diamond 4 games.
Have a 70% WR with Dva ( She has a lot of armor and ho pool over all Is huge)
Orisa Is another tank that Just goes in and shoots in the head, very hard to kill with her sulla rotation.
After She got buffed, Mauga Does not easily counter her anymore.
any other tanks seems to get countered very Easy,
Winston, Road, Doomfist - sometimes It Is enough to swap 1 dps or/and 1 support
seems like this situation Does not happen with Orisa/Dva
On paper Zarya and Sym should counter them but
Zarya has an HP pool too small.
While Sym has really low impact, low poken( Just feed charger).
Dva can Just facetank any Dps Hero Thanks to ger armor…
I was trying to play DF but every second game i found myself playing into ana cas and sombra sometimes… and i found It annoying and frustrating already playing a cosmetic punchbag and be forced to play only 2 Heroes ( hog RAM Winston con work sometimes )
Your joking right? no hard counter to dva? THE CHARACTER WHO METLS LIKE BUTTER??!?!?!? I’m done cya.
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i Matrix around the corner without even peeking.
contesting HG
if the Hero would be bad- i would never have a 70%wr but a 50…
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Good question. Unfortunately it’s just built into their designs. They have inherent advantages baked-in.
I think Rein gives hard counter to DVA
Zarya gives hard counter to Orisa
Pick Zarya. It’s that simple.
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While solo tanking is a thing, there should not be a hard counter to any tank.
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Nah ain’t no way. D.va counters Rein
Does way more damage + more health + can land every shotgun pellet on Rein + more effective range + eats every fire strike. Put shield down for 1s against a Dva and she just eats away at your health
I have played a lot of dva and I can tell you beam heroes like ZARYA and Sym do hard counter D.VA cause she has no defense against beams as they aren’t projectiles.
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You can pick Zarya for both and ignore either half or complete of their defensive abilities.
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She melts like butter if you are bad and stand out in the open hoping your matrix + healing when it is down is enough. This is like 80% of DVas below plat.
She is near unkillable if her matrix is managed properly and she uses cover and high-ground. Unfortunately, in metal ranks, that is rare to see.
She can pretty easily deal with soft counters like Zarya by waiting for her to use her 2nd bubble then going in and bursting her down, including the bubble.
She really doesn’t have any hard counters. Now, that is not a bad thing if all other tanks were in the same boat. But hog, doom, mauga, … all have hard counters that often are not even tanks or dps (ana for example).
A well played DVa does not have problems with tank hard counters.
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There are no hard counters in the game, it just depends on how good you are at your character on whether you need to switch or not
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When every advantage matters, soft counters may as well be hard counters. If they weren’t, we wouldn’t see counterswapping be so prevalent at high ranks.
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when i’m playing Doom vs Ana, Cas,Sombra,Kiriko and Orisa/Hog 
Zarya does not hard counter orisa just because she can beam through spin
Dont know what u understand by hard counter, being that said, no tank has an hard counter.
For me Zarya is almost always a good pick to turn a game against Orisa
Tell that to yourself when you play Winston into mauga
I do
Winston has a shield. Shields are Mauga’s natural enemy. He’s also highly mobile and can get away from Mauga any time it’s not looking good. It’s also easier to dive Mauga’s supports due to his more limited mobility and reliance on dealing damage.
Does he stay at the front and try to hold it with less support from his supports and less self healing since he’s not shooting the tank? Or does he give up the frontline to run back and help his team out, only for the Winston to probably jump away before Mauga gets there anyways?
And any teammate Mauga decides to chase after, Winston can jump to and drop a shield, saving the teammate and probably putting Mauga at extreme risk since, again, he relies heavily on actually doing damage to tank effectively.
I play Winston into his counters all the time. Good use of his bubble changes those bad matchups dramatically.
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Maybe not one, unless it’s a Zarya and your team can’t quit feeding her charge and she is focusing you.
Two is manageable if you’re good. But when they add more beam heroes it becomes almost impossible to play around unless you grossly outrank the players trying to counter you.
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Unless you have perfect team mates who are all good and coordinated this seems all good on paper but practically will not happen and you will lose 9/10+times. When you place your shield he will destroy it and kill you before you can escape. If you jump onto your teammate and bubble then, mauga will destroy the bubble and kill you. You jump onto maugas supports he will turn around and kill you before you can get away. I also play Winston incase you couldn’t tell and it is like playing ball into sombra tracer, like yes it’s possible but you are basically throwing and will basically always lose. I can also play mauga and will never lose to a Winston.
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