Why tf isnt there a scoreboard

It reduces toxicity as its currently impossible to know whos the problem unless you see your rein charge into the enemy. It reduces toxicity. If it replaces medals you wont have “I have gold shut up” argument thrown at by your sym when they have a pharah. Even more important after 2-2-2 bcz i cant switch to counter pharah im im tank. WTF blizz EVERY SINGLE GAME IN THE WORLD HAS A SCOREBOARD.

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Well this simply isn’t true

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name one game that doesnt have a scoreboard

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Overwatch

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oke buddy you got me there

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I guess you don’t really read or listen to a lot of interviews but Jeff Kaplan actually answered this in the past. But here are some quotes to answer you.

“We want players to be able to look at the scoreboard and go, ‘I know who’s performing really well, and I know who’s not,’” Kaplan said at the time. “If we just make it about kills and deaths, it doesn’t tell the complete story of who’s doing well and who’s doing not.”

“Conversely, we have tried other scoring systems where people have said, ‘We’ll make it all about the objective. Who’s on the payload and whose capturing points?’” he went on. “But we have characters like Tracer and Genji in the game who are really unique in how Overwatch is played, and sometimes the absolute right thing for Tracer to be doing is to be off on her own, completely away from the objective or completely away from the team, harassing other players who are running back from the spawn.”

“And she might not even be killing those players — sometimes she’s killing them, sometimes she’s not.”

“You can be the absolute MVP of the match when you’re doing some of those things, and there’s no way to really score it accurately. So we we basically stopped displaying any form of scores, kills, deaths because it really wasn’t telling the story of who was doing their job properly to win or lose as a team. And really, what it’s all about is, ‘Did you win or lose as a team?’ None of that other stuff really matters at the end of the day.”

I think you mean name a competitive FPS because well. Minecraft, Astroneer, Borderlands, Tomb Raider, Fallout, Metro…

Article: dbltap. com/posts/6226795-jeff-kaplan-explains-overwatch-s-lack-of-scoreboard

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Kerbal Space Program

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if blizzard feels that you cant accuratly measure skill in a scoreboard then why tf are there medals

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Because the dev team thinks it’s better to have hate thrown in every direction as opposed to hate being targeted at where the fault actually is.

It’s a competitive online game. You will not get rid of the toxicity. You can at least channel it to a remotely constructive area by designating exactly where the team is lacking.

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Minecraft is a competitive FPS? :thinking:

My phrasing was probably confusing so I apologize for that.

They said to name a game that didn’t have one and by saying the FPS part I was implying that it is one of the only genres that consistently have scoreboards and then I named other genres that do not have them as examples to support my FPS claim.

Hope this clarifies what I meant.

What he said is FACT. Watch any professional sporting event and there is a scoreboard and publicly available statistics.

Blizzard is the outlier here. They want to promote competition but hide scores and stats?

No other competitive league in the WORLD does this. It’s troubling that they hide this information. It’s beyond a joke.

“We’re trying to promote competition but we’re hiding the stats and arbitrarily assigning you a ranking.” A joke.

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Dude. Trust me. There is no reason to hide stats. I have my suspicions but we’ll never know unless the publicly open a scoreboard.

The reason they hide the stats has nothing to do with toxicity. It has EVERYTHING to do with individual players comparing their stats to the pros. Blizzard doesn’t want that. Nor does Blizzard want to create official “minor leagues.”

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No, it isn’t. He said “every single game in the world has a scoreboard.” That is obviously not true.

And player stats are shown in OWL, the pro league of OW.

Comp is a game mode, not a “competitive league.” SR is entirely meaningless except for personal satisfaction.

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We have a try hard.

“No, it isn’t. He said “every single game in the world has a scoreboard.” That is obviously not true.”

And you knew what he was implying. Stop being daft.

“And player stats are shown in OWL, the pro league of OW.”

That’s not how it’s done in professional, anything really. Once you compete at the lowest professional level your stats are public record. When I played baseball in high school, I could go to the county website and pull my stats. Scouts do it all the time. This is how it works in every professional league in the world starting with the olympics down. Overwatch is the exception.

“Comp is a game mode, not a “competitive league.” SR is entirely meaningless except for personal satisfaction.”

Correct, its a competitive game mode. In competitive anything stats matter. SR is meaningless, scoreboards and robust statistics are extremely valuable and meaningful.

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He was implying that scoreboards are a universal trait to all video games and OW is somehow an extreme outlier without one. This is obviously not true.

…you can pull your OW stats at any time. We’re discussing seeing your teammates’ stats during a game. Which, btw, you can’t do while playing baseball, or pretty much any team sport… the scoreboard shows the team scores, not individual stats. That’s why it’s called a scoreboard, not a statboard.

In fact, OW does have a scoreboard, just not the kind you want. It’s right there at the top, showing round progress and score.

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Gold medals don’t immediately show where your team is lacking. Your moira can have gold healing but still have a terrible overall healing output.

Your DPS could not have gold damage because you have a zarya that’s getting fed.

Assumptions galore.

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Agreed. Medals are not a good indicator and I never offered support for them. A comprehensive leaderboard can show where there’s a disconnect in team participation. We generally know where and how any given hero should operate, so they should have similar trends in the numbers if they’re not hindered by some factor.

“He was implying that scoreboards are a universal trait to all video games and OW is somehow an extreme outlier without one. This is obviously not true.”

Every competitive game I’ve ever played had a scoreboard and you can see teammate’s stats in game. I’ve been playing since the early 90’s. Even games not inherently competitive have scoreboards. World of Warcraft had scoreboards and statistics. OW is an extreme outlier.

" …you can pull your OW stats at any time. We’re discussing seeing your teammates’ stats during a game. Which, btw, you can’t do while playing baseball, or pretty much any team sport… the scoreboard shows the team scores, not individual stats. That’s why it’s called a scoreboard, not a statboard."

That’s what I’m talking about as well. I can tell from this statement that you’ve never played or watched a professional sport. Stats are constantly rolling on the scoreboards in live games and on TV. Are you insane? Nobody would pay any attention if stats weren’t involved. Look at fantasy football. Its based purely on stats.

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How about instead of medals, a system that compares your current hero’s average stats, with the same heroes is a 100 sr range. That way, if you’re playing junkrat and you are the 87th percentile for dmg, you could get a gold medal or something that shows that you’re playing well

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