Why TF did Hanzo get nerfed AGAIN?

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Threads like this make me not able to take the forums seriously.

I get you hate hanzo but seriously you think it is fair for him to have 225hp when hit-scan heroes like Cassidy and Ashe are in this game with 275hp and 250 hp respectively.

It is asinine.

HP nerfs really frickin hurt, especially for characters like Hanzo. Non-existence escape options, Widow can yeet herself across the map. Hanzo makes a jump that would only make my gran jealous.

It hurts to the extent that I think Hanzo would be better not 1-shotting any hero again (besides Tracer and Widow) and keeping the 250hp.

People have to remember, on average you are going to have 2 heroes with 225hp in a game (unless the team decide to counter, then you are just f*****)

The heroes with 225hp are also some of the hardest to hit heroes in the game, I consider myself a pretty damn good Hanzo but consistently headshotting Echo, Pharah, Mercy, lucio etc, nah its not happening. The benefit is minor while the nerf is huge.

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Does OP not realize Hanzo just gained 8 new heroes to one shot (or 2 shot to the body) with the HP changes?

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The problem is they do realize, they just refuse to acknowledge.

Big difference.

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I don’t disagree with you in the slightest. I just see the logic behind several of the changes he’s gotten since S9, even if I might not like all of them. This is probably the closest he’ll get to a middle ground without a full on rework focusing solely on him being a sniper or a spammer/ duelist.

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Because it’s not fair to the whiny support mains if they die for any reason, honestly surprised Genji and Tracer weren’t nerfed further as well.

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Those same heroes he can one shot can now kill hanzo just as fast if not faster. Unless you have aimbot, you aren’t gonna go every game landing headshots back to back.

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You don’t need too?

Most kills require one headshot and a half charged body shot.

The difference now is that he can now one shot more heroes while there is a slightly lower break point for him.

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Hard to kill a Hanzo faster than a 1 shot, or 1hs/1bs storm arrow

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the simple answer is

nobody likes hanzo

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You simply strafe, even the very best hanzo player cant hit strafing targets consistently. The only time arrge for example ever pops off is when hes attacking unsuspecting targets. Do you ignore widow when shes shooting at your team? No right? It’s not any different. A hanzo’s biggest weakness is pressure

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yeah, i gotta admit that was one of the changes that stood out as weird. I havent even seen many hanzos in the past few weeks. Probably see even less now, but i guess he’ll probably get buffs in mid-season? /shrug

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If they want to make Hanzo useful for anything make it so he can’t be headshot from the front while his bow is drawn (his hand blocks his face). That was he can at least ruin Widow the way he was always intended to.

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LOL what are you gonna main in marvel rivals, there’s no sniper

Can’t wait for Hela though, she’s perfect

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So you unironically think Hanzo is better off with 250hp and only being able to one shot Tracer/Widow/Pharah? Because I think you’re way off the mark if thats what you think

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I hear hawkeye is gonna come to the game, it’s been data mined. Thats gonna be my hanzo replacer lol

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Hawkeye has a leaked design and everything and I gotta say… he looks pretty damn cool.

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I think if he was gonna get his HP nerfed, sombra of all people should not have gotten any buffs. Of course hanzo needed the one shot and yes it helps but with less HP, hes even easier to melt down. Its not just sombra thats gonna give hanzo a hard time, genji is a natural counter to hanzo and now genji has a much bigger advantage needing less shurikens to melt hanzo. Tracer didnt even get touched which means hanzo gets melted faster. I think if these changes would have gone live and hanzo kept his HP, he would have been in a good spot.

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Except if you really think about it the matchup is way better for him now because he can 1 shot her, or 2 tap to the body, or 1hs1bs with storm arrow.

Before this patch Hanzo had to hit 3 body shots, or a headshot and a bodyshot, or 4 bodyshot storm arrows, or 2 headshot storm arrows. Those were all horrible breakpoints for him that made his matchup against her near impossible to win. Now he has a much better matchup vs her even if he has a bit less HP and she has 10 extra virus impact damage.

And all of this is true for half the support roster now. What used to take extra arrows before now doesn’t.

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Legit was the first hero I was wondering where he was. Bows are so cool, Sova main in val

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If Moira is mobile, then Hanzo is mobile. Issue is they didn’t even implement this change consistently. There’s blatant favouritism; Solider, Tracer, Genji, Pharah? (They legit said they were nerfing Echo because she was seeing similar stats to Pharah after all…)

And how about the hyper mobile dive tanks losing their boop resistance at the very least??

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