So at League level, the gap between Ans and the rest of the Hitscan is a mile long.
Therefore the gap between Ans and the Projectile specialist is even longer than that.
Which means that no Projectile specialist would be put on a Sniper hero whose only value is in her 1- Shot Hitscan fire.
Her Projectile and the value it is intended to farm is not very difficult to achieve, which sets it apart from other Projectile certainly.
So she is a projectile
She is if you play her for her Primary because you have a strange idea that you got from somewhere that she is the second coming of Soldier 76 whose primary is Hitscan.
So in other words, yes play her because she looks like someone else even though they have a different kit.
I know stats are easy to read, but in order to find some value and not contradict yourself some thinking maybe required.
*thinking sold separately
Bruh what are you talking about? You cannot play her without using her primary. Sheβs not like Ashe, Sojourn canβt use her sniper whenever she wants. You need to deal damage with your primary to get the Railgun. You literally canβt use the Railgun otherwise. So yes, sheβs a projectile character with 1 Hitscan ability
Her M1 is a projectile
Her M2 is a hitscan that requires you to deal damage with her M1 to even be able to fire.
So yeah, she is PROJECTILE
Going by the stats we are aware of and other characteristics of her Projectile such as;
Her Projectile isnt noticeably different from the standard Hitscan characteristics you would find on say Ashe, Baptiste, Wrecking Ball.
What i am saying is her Projectile does not play like a Projectile.
I havent seen 1 streamer leading their shots with her like you would need on Torbjorn or Hanzo.
It sounds like you havenβt actually played the hero. It absolutely feels like a projectile weapon. You still have to lead your shots - just not as wide as you do with hanzo, for example, because the projectile speed is higher. Itβs really obvious when you play the hero and have to switch between primary and secondary and it takes some getting used to switching between projectile and hitscan so quickly.
but you said sheβs not a projectile.
her m1 is basically orisa with less spread dude.
Iβm gathering that he thinks only projectiles with gravity count as βprojectilesβ, and straight-line projectiles are just slow moving hitscan, I guess?
Major problem i see people confronted with, and not knowing how to get around it.
Its usually causes them to drop her at least IMO.
So youre saying shes not Hitscan?
Who would reach a higher ceiling on her in a theoretical sense, Ans or YZNSA?
A little more reasons than that.
I think the mans is after attention. the point he is trying to make falls short as soon as you actually think about it even a little bit.
thats literally exactly what I am saying.
the person who has the better average accuracy between the two fire modes.
you literally cannot get value from her m2 without using the m1 effectively.
Well ive provided reasons in the form of words why that isnt true.
So Ans.
Yes and her M1 isnt very difficult to use, i could see your argument making sense if her M1 had as much Projectile qualities as Junkrats M1.
But that isnt the case.
the reasons you provided included the fact that she has a projectile dude.
whoever can use both modes more effectively. I donβt know or care who that is.
do you understand what a projectile is?
The Projectile isnt important, the only reason you rate it higher than her M2 is because it is represented by the number β1β therefore superseding all following numbers.
Nobody in their right mind would consider Ana a Projectile hero based on her Unscoped shots, she is a Hitscan hero due to her scoped shots.
Many pople complained that her Hitscan was difficult to land, noone said that about her Projectile.
I understand that it is a part of Sojourns kit, but i do not place much value on it.
gm ana main here:
youβre wrong. shes both. there is literally 0 reason to class her as anything other than both.
if you cant use both effectively then youre not going to be of any value on ana.
her value is literally limited by it dude.
Thanks to the devs, her M1 was given ease of use at least in comparison to other Projectile heros.
I would argue that a Soldier main could pick her up far easier than a Hanzo main could.
A projectile main would never land a shot, and at least in OWL no team in their right mind would run a Projectile player on her.
Considering the ease of use Hitscan provides i would think her scoped shots could be utilized by even Silver players like myself.
Her unscoped are a little more difficult to utilize though.
Her value is even more limited if you cant land the Hitscan of her M2.
Just because something has a label such as βProjectileβ doesnt mean that it has the characteristics of 1.
Hitscan vs projectile classification of a weapon isnβt something thatβs up for debate β itβs a definition of how the mechanism works:
This isnβt a case where you can go βthatβs a hitscan weapon!β just because you feel like it. To do so is like flat-earther levels of fact denial.
Classification of a hero as βhitscanβ or βprojectileβ comes from what they will spend most of their time using. In the case of Sojourn, it is her primary fire, which is a projectile weapon β the railgun shot is infrequent and contingent on landing her primary fire or using her ultimate (as has been stated thoughout the thread). Conversely, Soldier is a βhitscanβ hero as his primary fire is a hitscan weapon, even though he has a projectile alternate fire with his helix rockets.
For comparison purposes, Ana is classified as a βhybridβ as her design and use flows between both seamlessly.
it also got significantly lower damage to compensate.
thats more down to tracking vs flicking but I guess that doesnβt fit the narrative youβre trying to push.
did you play the beta? sojurn was a throw pick 90% of the time.
edit: a silver ana who only scope shots would be great in silver. and a throw pick in gold.
this is true. the thing is, being good with her m2 is pointless if you cant charge it frequently enough for it to have any value.
it literally does. like by definition.
Oh, there it is. Hitscan is easier if you have good mechanical skill, but the hit volume is incredibly unforgiving. Thereβs a reason Hanzo logs exist but Widow needs a pixel-precise target.
Lets say youβre right, OP.
It doesnβt matter. All that matters is how much consistent value she can bring to the team.
The entire thread is an argument of definition. Itβs pointless semantics.