litterally go find a streamer that thinks the cassidy and hanzo buffs were needed. can you guys stop bending over backwards to defend the devs and admit they made a mistake, can you do that
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How is it a mistake if McCree has had the worst win rate of all 32 heroes in the past 6 months.
Iām pretty sure that blizzards own internal stats made them aware of this and is the reason why they have been trying to push any type of tweak to help McCree out in the last few patches and XP cards.
I donāt like the Hanzo buff but again Hanzo is on the bottom tier of heroes that have bad win rates as well.
Only in these forums does that not matter at all and only if you see a hero frequently in your games is the final determining Factor if a hero is overpowered.
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LOL you think hanzo and cassidy are bad heroes nothing you say is valid hanzo and cassidy are both s tier heroes
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Itās not what I think or say, itās whatās Blizzards own internal statistics are showing them.
No wonder Blizzard pretty much ignores the vast majority of nonsense that people saying here.
As they should to be honest.
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The question should be, āWhy should we endow this company with our money?ā
When customers buy into a video game experience, it is with the understanding and expectation that a decent, fun, and well-managed will be the product delivered. It isnāt. So vote with your wallets and uninstall. Theyāve had enough chances to prove they were worthy of our money and leisure time and they failed.
When we hand our money over, the expectation is that a suitable group of adults is able to shape and direct the game. That hasnāt materialized. In fact, what information we do get is that rabid 14-year olds on Youtube are the predominant driving force behind the decisions here. The devs, during their admission of guilt over fumbling the whole āEchoā thing, admitted that they could not even convince the team to focus on established work priorities. The goal was create a new support asset. What happened is that someone focused on a piece of concept art and couldnāt let go, then they came up with a really bad idea for an ultimate and just couldnāt let it go. And instead of having the discipline to say ānoā to the bad idea, or even just move it to the backburner for some future development and release later so that in the meantime they can focus on the goal they were given, they just succumbed to the idea of working on anything else except the task at hand, and just ran with it and released yet another DPS into the game starving for literally any other content except that.
Where was the adult in the room to very politely thank the person for the work but then politely remind them of the project goals and ask that they redirect their efforts towards that? You donāt need to be mean about it or be a slavedriver, but there needed to be an adult to lead the team and give them the structure they needed to focus on the good health of the game. That didnāt happen.
Imagine if you worked for Toyota and they asked you to engineer a better diesel outboard boat motor, but you came to your boss 6 months later with plans for a slick new dune buggy with a big spoiler on the back because all the kids on Youtube wonāt stop talking about how cool they are. Would you keep your job after that? Methinks not.
It boggles my mind that this game was supposedly one of the hottest thing in gaming news 5 years ago. Today the game is in shambles, the balancing is a meme unto itself, the playerbase is dwindling, the devs donāt even think the original property is a viable entity anymore and plan on nuking it from orbit just to be sure. Thereās a long-term gamble on trying to resurrect the game Great Phoenix style by holding back all the content that would have kept the game viable in the first place, but itās years out and comes at the cost of the aforementioned nuking of the original product and nothing in the relaunch actually addresses the series of problems and bad decision-making that led to the previous title going from top of the world to trash heap in 5 yearsā time.
But donāt worry! Because theyāre just going to make sure tanks die even faster in the next phase because it wouldnāt be Blizz balancing ā¢ without doubling-down on the problems. Then they plan on blaming supports for all this despite the fact that thereās video evidence that proves otherwise, and then using that blame to nerf supports too all while wondering why their big gamble never resulted in better DPS times. Brilliant.
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Sure. Show me evidence that there are more people that like the patch. But oh wait! You canāt because even on twitter there are posts with THOUSANDS of likes saying this patch is terrible. The truth is that this patch is disliked significantly more.
Hereās a fact for you: (From OWL Feb 2021)
Cassidys winrate when picked for partial match: 44%
When picked for whole match: 60%
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The Ball fix is okay. and it is fair to return scatter arrow in some way.
But Match maker needs repairs the most , followed by the Competitive Match rating system.
As long as smurffs are clogging the proverbial drain. The folks that should be falling in rank never will and the those that actually WORK to win, will always be stuck in the drain.
Match maker is a dumpsterfire and for all intents and purposes. If Blizzard cannot get a handle on it now. They are in no way, shape, or form ready to Launch a Sequel.
This whole āsaving it for #2ā isnāt going to work. Folks see that they cannot get a Grip now. They wonāt get it then. That is what ROASTED World of Warcraft back then.
I couldnāt even hold a guild together at that point. Because people were so irate with the company for not addressing Match makers for battlegrounds and Arena play then, and then handling the gameās balance of giving fair leaway to Raiders. They needed the extra healing in dungeons. While battlegrounds they needed LESS.
Yeah Iām not writing more posts about balance because theyāre about bastion and therefore ignored by everyone anyways 
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You can almost feel the disdain in those words.
Also notable is putting forward incorrect personal takes as near-official gospel, getting it conclusively disproved then on to the spluttering, backpedaling, and deflection.
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Iād read them. I read the ones that people posted after the proposed rework got posted to Twitter. I know someone with your same icon had a lengthy write-up on the issue, but Iām guessing that wasnāt you then?
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Eh, it may have been meā¦ 
If ya find them on my profile youāre welcome to read them lol.
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You should give feedback because itās valuable to the dev team, as long as itās valuable feedback.
This is not the type of feedback they are looking for. This is what will get ignored.
What point are you trying to make citing those stats?
What that tells me is that players swap off Cassidy when they arenāt having success with himā¦ as they should. What do you take from those stats?
Thanks for the quotes Wyoming 
Itās been made clear that constructive feedback is helpful & taken into consideration. Just complaining isnāt
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I, and the overwatch community are giving good feedback. The patch is terrible for reasons stated many times before. Iām not going over it again, look through forums, twitter, and reddit to see for yourself.
Just like any feedback 
Winrate is an infinitely & objectively biased stat.
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Could you give an example? The feedback youāve given might be good (I havenāt seen it, just this post of yours) but Iām seeing a whole lot of feedback thatās just complaining āthis change sucks, devs incompetentā thatās not good feedback.
Iāve seen some good feedback, for sure. Is the entire community giving good feedback? Absolutely notā¦
Yeaā¦ no. I assure you the devs are being made aware of the actual good feedback being given. I would be surprised if thereās not another patch within a month.
Ok 
Sure
- Weāre buffing meta heroes, thatās a terrible thing to do
- Rein change removes counterplay to shatter and cheesy
- Hanzo change is just cheesy and unfun.
- Ball change nerfs his skill ceiling more than spin2win. There are more things you can do like ārolloutsā.
- The cassidy change makes him blatantly unfair to fight against doom and wrecking ball. He already had a significant advantage over these heroes. Now you can actually roll out of his combo even if you had no flash.
- Torbjorn change contributes to damage creep
The only change Iāve heard positive things about is moiras.
Confirmation bias
Wrong
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So, what is your specific feedback for the dev team?
Revert the whole patch besides Moira?
Just open your eyes and read through the threads on the front page. Thereās a whole lot of non-useful feedback.
So, you think the devs donāt care what is said about these changes & theyāre 100% all staying as is, forever? I just want to make sure I understand your stance.
Shh, itās trying to curry favour with the higher-ups by dunking on those who question it.
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Iām not sure what this even means 
Correct and that is what a majority of the community thinks if you look over multiple platform.
There is 0 evidence to show to opposite.
Like what? Every thread is someone giving an opinion on a change. I donāt know what you consider to be useless feedback.
Correct 
Why else do you think they pushed it straight to live 
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It means you wonāt win brownie points with the devs by trying to put down any criticism towards this horrendous patch.
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