I’m not saying it was perfect but it was still good (2nd or 3rd favourite).
The cinematic had good action and a good meaning, that you shouldn’t be afraid to ask for help. I’ll admit it was quite generic, but so was reins (mine and many others favorate).
Reins-this is a strong powerful person but he is too cocky. Is this not just Han Solo.
Anyway what did you peps think
I think Honor and Glory was better since it develops the character more and actually takes time to explain why Rein is the way he is. Rein’s reckless ways cost his best friend’s life, Rein got a new sense of responsibility from this and it’s what shaped him into the man we know and love today. It’s like Spiderman and Uncle Ben.
D.va’s short felt much more lazy, like it was trying to be Honor and Glory but it just fell short
I liked D.VA’s short. I’m very happy they made one for her. It’s been quite a while since our last one too.
About Honour and Glory, I think the event also left an impact on Rein due to what Balderick effectively did. When someone single handedly swings the tide of a battle like Balderick did (allowed his allies t retreat by taking nearly all the attention, and not dying for so long while alone against that many omnics), it’s only natural for Rein to not want to give up till he goes out if such a spectacular fashion himself. With honour and glory.
Regarding D.va, if you take into account in game personality, I’d say this short gave her a lot of development too.
D.va’s does the same thing, just not as ‘outright’ imo. Here’s a snippet from one of my other posts that I think describes it:
TL;DR: Her (D.va’s) feelings of responsibility towards her country manifest itself in her personality as this inability to accept aid.
Because it wasn’t very good and just wreaked of lack of ideas, It revealed nothing, recycled a myriad of voicelines from the game and kind of didn’t make sense (Busan has no defenses? I mean WTF)
People waited a long time for a cool new short and they got next to nothing. Overwatch is just ripe for a ton of lore and Blizzard seems unable to deliver the goods in any meaningful way.
reinhardt, bastion and mei had better cinematics.
i love the fight between genji and hanzo and widow and tracer as it involved more than 1 character of ow.
junkrat and roadhogs 1 was comedy gold and i was laughing so much.
then there is dva and 
Unrelated but I always kinda found the short to have a dual meaning, and the end they say “Live with honour, die with glory” so I kinda see the title as also meaning “life and death”.
I do like the depth they added to her, confirming the speculation that “D.va” is just an image created by the media and “Hana” is someone different. I just wish they spent a bit more time showing us why D.va feels this burden to protect her friends and why she feels only she can do it. They give us that brief 2 second flashback but I don’t think it’s enough. Like it explains that she doesn’t want to hurt her friends but it doesn’t tell us why she wants to do this alone. I’m assuming it’s because she feels that if her loved ones get involved that it puts them in danger. Honor and Glory just paints that image so much better, like I can piece together enough about D.va but it feels like it’s more speculation.
This may sound random but in terms of backstory and motivations I see Reinhardt as being like Spiderman, and D.va more like Batman. I made a thread talking about it but it’s a bit of a mess lol
You forget the Bastion one!
It’s no Honour and Glory, but if that one is 10/10, the Bastion on is 9.5/10.
Most say it was a lackluster, but overall 6/10. That’s not a bad score because it has flaws many users talked about on the forums.
There’s an interesting parallel between D.va’s and Reinhardt’s shorts. They both developed as characters, but in inverse ways.
Reinhardt was brash and cocky, and not at all team-oriented. Through his actions, he learned that honor isn’t just about killing things and fighting, it’s about fighting alongside your comrades and, if need be, sacrificing yourself to save them.
D.va, on the other hand, was a lone wolf. She took too much work upon herself, as she felt obligated to her city and her people (though I’ll admit, the cinematic doesn’t do a great job explaining her motivations). But she learned that she can’t face every problem alone, and that in order to protect the people she loved, she would have to ask for help as well.
In other words, Reinhardt learned that he must help others, while D.va learned that she must accept help from others.
But I think that’s the point. Right after the flashback there’s no hesitation to enter that mech, and alone I might add against the enemy. She’s not afraid, like Rein. Different reasons, Rein not to let down Balderick, D.va not to let down her people, but it’s the same effect. They are both heroic. It’s why they respect each other in game, and makes pairing them not seem so ridiculous (like Ana and Rein), unlike school girl D.va before.
Honestly, I hope joins Overwatch alongside Rein at some point. If my theory about the bots is right, Talon might contact her, and her rejection of them means she joins Overwatch. Then we could have a short called “War heroes” or “War stories”, to have them just talk to each other about their experiences, and build up their friendship. Could even be a comic, I wouldn’t mind. I just want that interaction.
It doesn’t really frame the conflict all that well (this is all from a single watch).
Dae-Dae (that’s his nickname and I’m sticking to it) acts like D.va went out there alone on bullheadedness, when we clearly see the other pilots are out of commission. This in turn undermines D.va’s character turn of asking for help, especially since the solution to everything- the nuclear core- is something she ideally should know about with the MEKA itself, especially since she also mechanically works on it despite Dae-Dae being paid to be her mechanic.
(Speaking of which, why in the world is she working on it at the end when all limbs are compromised in some form? Only way she could’ve gotten up there is if Dae-Dae helped her, meaning he’s allowing his assigned pilot and childhood friend to compromise her healing process. He’s a garbage friend.)
The short’s “heart” would’ve been better resolved if D.va was actually a lot more up her own butthole about her fame, even if the underlying basis of which was her lingering PTSD and fears of failing the city, and insisted Dae-Dae didn’t even need to bother since “I got this.”
Also, the dialogue is cringe. I’m mean, I’m happy to hear Charlet be able to act with this character beyond being an amusing pro-gamer stereotype, but this actual writing wasn’t hitting it. At all.
It was super lazy and predictable writing with a pretty cringe depiction of PTSD.
Having an unshown flashback horror moment in the heat of the battle? Stupid. Overused and just flat out boring.
Several of these cinematics are just recycled tropes and this one was almost all of them they could shoehorn in.
At least they had the sense to add Mountain Dew and Doritos. Everything past that was bland at best.
Also, to add onto this further, I think that flashback is her motivation for her acting the way she does. This short confirmed a few things for me:
The only flashback I remember them showing any sort of hint to was when she touched a scratch on one of the cannons of her MEKA and right after, she is hopping in her MEKA to take care of the Gwisin and not bothering to ask for help until she realizes that she desperately needs it. I know it’s been mentioned on this thread before, but it’s very much a parallel to Rein’s development.
The main difference is the nature of the problem they must overcome (Rein learning he must help others while Hana must learn to accept help from others) as well as the subtlety in which the problem is presented. Hana’s is more subtle than Rein’s. Rein’s is overt, obvious, and you know right away what he needed to work on. Hana overworks herself, constantly working on her MEKA even when injured, and tends to want to do everything herself so that nobody else has to go through what she did. Everyone looks up to her and is counting on her - and that, on top of what she already went through when she was first enlisted, is a lot of stress for a 19-year old.
Honestly, this is probably by far, my favorite short they have made (since we learn more about Hana and the rest of the MEKA squad), and it’s made me appreciate D.Va more as a character.
Isn’t that what D.Va’s short does too though? It contrasts her youth with the immense pressure and responsibility placed on her, showing why/how she puts on her “gamer face” most of the time. Not as emotional as Honor and Glory, but IMO it does a great job of fleshing out D.Va as a charater.
I disagree with this sentiment quite a lot, but then again I’m a stickler for this type of stuff. The action sequence was lame and generic, a fight scene can show a character’s state of mind and personality but D.Va’s fight scene basically entails that she can fight and nothing else about her.
If only this message wasn’t played out constantly to where it means nothing. This isn’t something new or interesting. I can go outside and something like ‘don’t be a terrible person’ but really it’s a ‘no-sh#t’ right there.
If you thought Rein’s was entirely generic you really don’t understand context or character writing and your summarized version of it really shows that.
If people can’t decipher the message then it has no meaning. This is why people don’t like the new cinematic.
The message for reins was “help people and don’t be cocky” that’s way more generic than ”learn that you can’t do things on your own and asking for help isn’t a bad thing”