Compared to a bunch of other tanks, Doomfist is weak in terms of damage. I get that he shouldn’t one shot anymore, but what we have now is laughable for one of the main antagonists of this series. Other dive tanks get plenty of chances for higher damage (Winston’s Primal and combining leap with right click, Dva’s missiles and Self destruct, ect.) It doesn’t feel fair to let them use the mobility excuse anymore considering other mobile tank strengths, and the fact that they patched out mobility tech from the betas.
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Because he has really good mobility
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Again though, so do other dive tanks with better chances to do stuff before needing to get out
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So does D. Va, Wrecking Ball, and Winston and they all do a lot more damage than Doomfist and have better defensive abilities on top of it.
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LOL Winston just looks like he has high damage because he hits multiple targets…
Much like lucios healing. Its quite low and looks much higher because of its aoe properties
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Doesn’t take away the damage from his últ, or the damage that other dive tanks definitely have. Ideally each one should at least be able to get one, maybe two kills at a time on their own, and just one on DF is hard without any help
I guess that’s why D.va can’t do good damage.
Wait, I mean winston.
Wait, I mean Ball.
Wait, I mean Genji.
Wait, I mean Tracer.
Wait, I mean Lucio.
Wait, I mean-You get the point.
That is high damage, its just spread across multiple people. Its why he can fight against heroes like Zarya or Reinhardt even though they out damage him. He’ll be hitting them and anyone they’re trying to protect at the same time.
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Doomfist is a horribly designed character that feels bad to play against. How a character feels to play against is an important thing because no matter how balanced a character is, if they feel bad to play as/against, it will influence the playerbase negatively as a whole. Doomfist isn’t the only one but he is a major offender and buffing him too much before sorting out the support role would be a huge mistake for the entire game.
If they don’t address how it “feels” to play support in general, the game will suffer and they know it given the upcoming changes.
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Could you elaborate on how it feels bad to go against him. I get why for Dps Doomfist, but I can’t imagine him being more than a pushover to most players now. I’ve gotten screwed up by a lot of supports while diving from my experience.
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Doom does more burst damage than most of the other tanks it’s just inconsistent.
When you dive someone as Winston you don’t have to worry about missing or them getting healed up because shields block healing. Whereas with Doom the bulk of his damage is coming from his primary which YOU will miss.
There are a lot of changes the devs can make to bring up his consistency, but we dont know what their plans are outside of buffing power block atm
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Because the support players would hem and haw on here begging for Mister Fist to have his gauntlet removed.
Tankfist is not allowed to be good
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Someone at blizzard just hates this character. The bias is so clear
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The level of damage he does is pathetic.
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Why is the man with the giant fist being balanced around the small one?
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He’s not his own character atm. Everyone else> what he needs. + support players would complain if he still had his one shot with the new slam range.
Personally I think RP fully charged up should be a tank killer but I understand their hesitation
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Still, support players have gotten him to be bad for years by being vocal and more numerous than DF players. They couldnt figure out beating him when he was dps was as simple as communicating and having someone in your team with cc
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Anytime a character is constantly moving on top of displacing people and doing decent damage, they aren’t going to feel good to play against no matter how balanced the character actually is. Tank Doomfist isn’t as bad as damage Doomfist but the core of why he doesn’t feel good to play against is unchanged.
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Fair enough, I can see that being rough. Still though, that playstyle is still easily counterable. It always has been
What do you mean by tank killer? %HP damage like sigma?
purely on dmg numbers he often does as much as a dps even now.
He is bad now due to lack of defensive abilities as a tank not due to lack of dmg.
if you cant dmg enough as doomfist your just playing him bad.