Why do all the other supports have well over 4x the amount of damage than her?
There’s a connection there.
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Only some.
Like Mercy isn’t even a mid line support if she is sporting more mobility across the board than these “top supports.”
If Mercy is out healing any ultimate then basically every other support is doing the exact same thing but better. As far as raw numbers go Mercy is on the low end of HPS.
I actually do agree Valk is a pretty boring ultimate. It’s less OP and more just not that engaging though. You basically just become Orisas old damage boost ultimate but can move. Yay?
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this is literally true rn. im t500 on mercy and i used to boost like 70% w heal beam at 30% and now its like the complete opposite since the damage boost nerfs.
this is also why other supports have been better than mercy throughout ow2. its either kill or sustain, and mercy does neither the best in the support category
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Bap, ilari, kiriko, Ana, for sure, Lucio and brig are tied with mercy, Moira is worst support. Zen it depends.
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ilari - a big “maybe”
kiriko is a worse mercy that you pick when the enemy has ana
bap - in what universe is he better than having a mercy?
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Premise 1: You say no one is talking about Mercy.
Premise 2: You’re talking about Mercy.
Conclusion: You’re no one.
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Oh yeah in bronze to gold where the others have minimum 1000+ damage.
It’s almost like if she doesn’t do damage she focuses on healing or other support abilities-wild.
And she’s been still dropping even with the support nerfs.
She’s no longer even second picked in plat anymore.
this is just because dragon blade sucks as an ultimate. it really needs to be raised back to 120
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I got curious. Damage per 10 average in comp game these last 3 months :
Zen : 5,842
Moira : 5,457
Zen (direct only) : 5,128
Illari : 4,781
Baptiste : 4,403
Brig : 3,885
Baptiste (direct only) : 3,859
Lucio : 3,789
Kiriko : 2,874
Ana : 2,711 (no data for nano)
Lifeweaver : 1,454
Mercy : 1,217
Mercy (direct only) : 522
You were right, between 2x and 6x her damage output.
On the other hand, healing… well, she’s not bad, but she’s not that good either, only managing to get 1.5x Zen’s healing output. Even in survivability, she’s not that good : 6 deaths per 10, she dies more then Kiriko (5.65) and nearly as often as Ana (6.1). Zen’s at 7 deaths per 10, to compare to him again, so between the very slow and easy to hit support and the insanely hard immortal support, the difference is a single death per 10.
Funny thing : if you have a Bap teammate, and they switch to Zen, per 10 stats-wise, you’ve won a Mercy in damage output, and lost only 1.1k healing, or around 13% of a Mercy in healing output.
Stat-wise, she’s awful. There’s no other way to say this.
[Edit : Forgot Moira ><]
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Why are you so convinced mercy is strongest? Literally she isn’t meta anywhere lol.
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because the team that has mercy almost always wins if the other one doesn’t have her.
Said no one ever. It is probably a team who couldn’t kill, focus, or even pay attention to the Mercy.
And no, I do not play Mercy at all!
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Its usually a level of player level of ability. Complaints about Mercy go up and down the ladder. You’ll see people annoyed with Rez and want it shifted away or want a more skilful character. Though there are very few people in say Master+ that legitimately will call out Mercy as being as a whole overpowered when we have Baptiste, Kiriko, Illari, and Ana in the game right now to compare against.
The people usually calling for the overpowered bit are the middle rank players. The people who are good enough to get value out of Mercy for dmg bst, rez, and healing. Yet, at the same time struggle with those mechanics for various reasons.
Either inability to play well. No making counterswaps. Poor target prioritization. Failure to group up with another player. Failure to camp bodies. The counters to Mercy are numerous, but many people can’t always execute on them well.
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Pretty much. It’s so funny people just try to look at one stat in a vacuum while ignoring everything else.
“Why does she get to heal so much?!”
-cause she doesn’t dish out the damage they others do…
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Ironic that you can’t see you’re the problem. Not Mercy.
At least not in the way you think. Mercy lacks play making agency to bring her to the level of most other Support heroes.
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but OP is right. Mercy is a problem. That unlimited superjump flying, spinning in air, ressing while flying is busted and have to be nerfed.
Despite OP being right, she will not be nerfed. So chill, because you will not need any time soon a diaper for your tears.
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Despite already being nerfed?
Any GA with added tech can add between 1-2.5 seconds (seeing Mercy player mentioned they’ve been getting that long of an addition) to the cooldown. Making the cooldown of any tech jump 2.5-4 seconds while activated.
Her damage boost has been dropped to 25%-including in Valk (mentioning this because her heals increase during Valk to 60hps-but damage boost stays the same)
Also has been affected by the global support passive Nerf.
She’s been declining in picks for a while-she hasn’t even gotten a tick up with the supports nerfs. In fact after those support nerfs-she dropped in plat from second pick to third pick support.
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How bad would these KIDS (yes) be crying if they had to deal with OW1 Mercy and a 5 man rez. It would send them to the mental ward. 
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making up excuses is always easier than getting good enough to climb out of that mid-range rank tier
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