Why is it ok for smurfs to 1v5 bronze? Multiple accts

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Why is it ok for smurfs to 1v5 bronze players? Or for top 500 players to have multiple accounts? Or for grandmaster players make a “unranked to GM” youtube video EVERY SEASON?

Think about how many players this is affecting negatively. Its a form of abuse. And they then promote it on youtube and twitch for own personal monetary gains.

If Blizzard is serious about controlling a fair and non toxic environment to enjoy overwatch, much like they dont allow trolling being promoted (despite how hilarious the clip may be), they shouldnt allow some of these famous streamers or content creators to literally go newb bashing without any repercussion, often times immune to any punishment simply because of their popularity.

Its Blizzards hypocrisy at the highest level. Unless the action of one of these users is flat out atrocious, they dont do anything, because in retrospect they help keep other players engaged. But for the hundreds (if not more) of players that they bash and poop on constantly are just swept under the rug? Its no secret favortism to these players is given by Blizzard but when theyre not even willing to state why you were banned or suspended yet see these famous streamers or players abuse the code of conduct season after season after season, you have to start to question Blizzards policing methodology.

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I’m just gonna tell you right now, no one in the game can consistently 1v5, even as a T500 against Bronzes. Sure, it COULD happen. But you’re much more likely to die after killing one or two because of the fact that it’s a 1v5.

There’s no way to stop it, and honestly it’s a pretty nice thing to have. Keeping high ranks more exclusive is VERY good because it improves matchmaking.

I can guarantee you that they’re only spending a few games in your rank. Most place in Diamond and rank up super fast from there.

A lot less than you seem to think

My dog also stepped on a bee.

Alright, time to actually be somewhat serious. High level streamers, even the ones smurfing doing UR2GM, are never in unfair matches for very long. The game has anti smurf systems in place so that if you’re clearly not new you’ll shoot up in rank. This is actually why hardstuck players can rank up a lot higher than their peak easily on new accounts. Of course, they’ll fall back down after, but they still prove this. Poor innocent Bronzes aren’t being abused like you think they are.

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all i can say to this is that my buddy has stopped making new accounts as its pointless.
not even 5 games and he sits back in masters.
smurfing from his pov has been ruined.

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Those videos end in 15 games 5 of which are in high masters.

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WAIT? Does this mean the match maker is actually doing its job?

That can’t be right. The match maker is supposed to be flawed, horrible, etc. I’m supposed to be in GM, not sitting in silver 3 for the last 30 games. My teammate are holding me back.

Quit trying to make me think the earth isn’t flat!!!

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You do not know the power of Bronze to get killed. I’ve seen Diamond players get a pocket and just wipe the whole team coming out of spawn for an entire game. Sure, they had a pocket, but they were only Diamond, too. t500 are going to stomp a team of Bronze hard. Not ‘could’, but ‘will’.

Witness and fear my ability to throw!

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Been in Bronze noobland. Had the pleasure of experiencing a smurf Dragonblade my entire team of noobs - we were so clueless we never saw him coming.

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Yeah, it’s hilariously brutal. It’s ironic, but the worst thing about Bronze isn’t the gameplay, it’s the high ranking visitors. If they would stay in sweaty tryhard land, Bronze would be a chill place to have fun.

When they do come down though, what a trainwreck. Poor Bronze. Diamonds aren’t content to ruin their own rank, they gotta come down and ruin whackyland, too.

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You’re trying so hard to be sarcastic yet only managed to state things that are genuinely true.

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oh i wish no i would pay to play in silver again.
all my accounts chill like at max 500sr apart (highest to lowest)

i can only tell About my experience.
5 acc all same elo (even same division on almost all acc) and those where ranked across many different patches of overwatchs lifecycle.

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Although this is wildly exaggerated, there is some truth to this.

A new account is typically placed somewhere in the region of Gold 1/Platinum 5 for their first competitive match. From there they get yo-yoed about for somewhere between five and nineteen matches until they get their first proper rank. So if you win 5 of those placement match without a loss, you probably get put in mid diamond and if you lose 15 without a win, well, you might as well get rid of that account, since it’s likely to land in that bottomless pit commonly referred to as “Bronze 5”. Furthermore Blizzard has confirmed that new accounts have a faster rate at which their SR is adjusted to quickly put them where they belong. So if a new account wins a match, they profit more from that than their teammates on older accounts, however they also get punished more for losing.

Now they have their first rank, but this accelerated SR won’t immediately get turned off. I don’t know any details, but you can probably play to one or maybe even two more rank adjustments, before a new account gets classed as an old account.

Let’s bring in an example here, although I should say that all the numbers mentioned here are rough guesses.
A new player plays through their placement matches. They win five, but lose nine. The game now assigns them the rank of “Silver 4”. The new player decides to party up with their friend who is also Silver 4, but has been playing for quite a while. They get lucky and win five matches in a row. The new player immediately shoots up to Silver 2 or maybe even Silver 1, while their friend goes up from, say, Silver 4 (27%) to Silver 4 (77%).

The amusing thing is that this acceleration also gets put on accounts that have stayed away from Competitive for a while. I noticed this, because I played Competitive on an account I haven’t touch since the middle of last season. I played five and won five matches, which sent me all the way up from Bronze 3 to Silver 5. Then the acceleration stopped and 30 wins, 21 losses and a draw later I am still only at Silver 4.

TL;DR New and inactive accounts can climb significantly faster than older accounts, provided the player using that new or inactive account is actually any good. So chances are you are actually good enough to hold your own in matches 2 DIVISIONS above where you currently play, if you are Bronze, Silver and maybe even Gold.

I am happy to read posts from people disagreeing with me.

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This would be true if the matchmaking was at all strict. It isn’t, however. It was for most of the game’s lifetime up until the latter end of the first month of S1. And then queue times became dog water, followed a week or so later by instant queues and everyone complaining about lopsided matches.

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That’s a matchmaking problem though, not a smurf problem.

I agree matchmaking is horrible and needs to be fixed, but that’s not a community issue at all.

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Absolutely, but you can’t claim that smurfs automatically get put into higher tier games quickly when matchmaking currently works the way it does.

That system does typically work, as it did previously, with certain subsets of players as outliers intentionally throwing matches to maintain ranking in a certain threshold, however. That is a problem; just not one that can be solved without actually banning on a case by case basis which with the current playerbase might be feasible but if the game ever has its problems addressed, would never work.

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They have to make a new account and play 50 quickplay matches on it before ranked right? I mean i know streamers do it for their dumb lazy content but i dont think theres many smurfs out there to bully bronze lobbies outside of streamers. Seems like alot of effort when they could just go bully quickplay lobbies for the the same effect.

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Except they kinda do. Most smurfs place Diamond, meaning that if they’re playing below that so are actual Diamonds. So the smurf isn’t exactly felt by the lower ranked players, because they’d be getting stomped regardless. The game considers it a high ranked match, but the players in it are literally 2019 dbd rainbow ranks :rofl:

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Oh man that brings back memories lmao

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Same. Honestly though I miss that system, because MMR somehow works even worse.

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This is so true hahaha

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Yeah, I stopped playing the game around that time, and it was a big factor in why it felt so bad for me since they lied about how much work was put into the system and it encouraged people to turn even moreso toward…unsavoury playstyles that just ruin the game. I come back for like 3-4 games every few months, so barely an hour long session and it feels just as bad or even worse sometimes; likely as a result of the fact that majority of the playerbase is in the same rating making it even worse than rainbow rank season lol. Doesn’t help how arrogant Bhvr are!

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