It’s not flex, it’s just an expedited queue to a role you can’t flex from. Flex is the ability to adjust roles mid-match to tailor the team to what it needs, and it was a real skill. Call it what it is, Fill queue and stop insulting the glory of our fallen flex players.
Long live open queue and flex players.
That is true, but ultimately, Flex players usually just ended up having to Tank / Support every game rarely getting to DPS.
Which you know, it captures the spirit of what it was like to Flex in oldQ.
Having to play 2 of the roles, because of the number of people who would just pick DPS totally regardless of what you needed.
I have gotten more DPS time on the flex queue than I did Flexing in oldQ.
Honestly, queueing as a “flex” player before role queue landed me tank almost as much as modern flex queue does.
This is the funny part. Now everyone gets a taste of the old Q “flex” experience!
It mocks the spirit of open queue and flex playing. Being forced to play a single role the entire match is booty, especially when the roster for the only two roles you’ll ever get are limited to like 2 heroes. You can’t adjust to handle any situation and more games become totally unwinnable, yet you’re still handed a loss. It is, was, and always will be a limited and lackluster system, which is why open queue had to be revived.
Yet role queue continue to mock the existence of open queue by siphoning beloved tank and support mains to the horror show that is role queue.
Flex Queue is just tank queue, let’s face it
True, it’s even worse than fill because you’re just stuck with it, hoping your team is competent enough to follow you up, or to counter certain picks. At least if you get stuck tanking in open you, you retain the freedom of switching to something that can counter the enemy, or switching roles with other players.
But it absolutely captures the sad truth of being a flex in the old system, like perfectly.
Because it is better for them there. Don’t you understand? roleQ for all of it’s flaws is a better experience for them?
It is like saying, this person has left the flat I was in to go live with a couple of people who burn their stuff, don’t pay rent, and won’t let them sleep.
That says a HUGE amount about the flat they have left don’t you think? They have a choice, and every day they pick roleQ over openQ…
Why do they do that? Why did they push for roleQ in the first place?
This. A hundy percent this. 
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It’s really not. It’s a total misconception of thinking you have a team when you run into the same issues you always had. Tanks that don’t tank and heals that don’t heal. At least when someone locked a tank or heal in open queue they did their job.
90% of my matches in open queue are rein or zarya and I win way more games, there’s much less toxicity, and the players are generally just better. Role queue is a noob trap that was created because GOATS couldn’t be effectively balanced.
Of source you do, you ACTUALLY have a tank player in the game.
You are a rare thing in openQ.
I prefer actual comp games to “team death match”
Dunno how it works for everyone, I get tank role only
I too hate King of the Hill.
But I mean I’ve always been a fill player. The most frustrated I’ve ever been with this game is being unable to swap or trade roles to get a win. Not a fan of gimmicks.
Yep, and I am glad you have openQ, but don’t expect me to join you there, I hated DPS Chicken at the start of each game, and I don’t want to go back to those days.
Yes, I would kick booty in openQ, because I CAN Tank / Support, but like, I’d rather enjoy my games.
I could support there, but like, having to play support against flankers all the time, with your team out yoloing all day?
Not my thing. I want to be able to rely on the other support when I am supporting. OpenQ is nothing like that.
You literally just made up your own definition lmao
That’s literally what flex playing was. That’s why there’s a “flex” queue now because people asked for one. It’s just not actually flex.
And now with the ticket system, you have all kinds of people just popping into tank/support queues for tickets so they can spam DPS. And surprise, you have a plethora of people who just don’t care about their tank/support SR and play lackluster matches because it doesn’t affect their “main” role.
I’ll agree with TorbOnly there, Flex didn’t mean filling, they were 2 different groups.
And it didn’t mean “switch to DPS the first lost fight” which means it was a VERY VERY small group of people.
RoleQ DID remove that style of play, which is a shame, but it fixed a WHOLE heap of problems on the way, which is why people prefer it.
But there were a small noble set of actual flex players, and not just people filling all day.
I get a mix of mostly Tank, Support and very few DPS.
Yeah, as a main tank player through the bad years, it was very lonely. Rarely a second tank, occasionally two healers but not nearly enough.
It made it worse because main tanks are built with synergy with an offtank. When they’re not there, it’s like fighting with one hand. That’s why Role Queue was so popular - you actually had a fighting chance, especially after the GOATS nerfs and buffs, when solo tanking was impossible and so many tanks quit. It’s why 1-3-2 is a nonstarter to most tank players. Been there, done that.
What I’ll for flex queue is that my friend tends to play it a lot for the tickets. And when he does…he tends to get a 50/50 split on tank and support. As far as I can tell, it feels like the flex queue has done it’s job to somewhat even out the queue times. In the past, the queues were like <2 / >10 / 4 (in terms of minutes expected to find a game). But nowadays it’s about 3/6/3 most of the time.
Flex in this instance is “whatever is needed to fill”. As in, you are willing to play any of the roles.