Why is flash on a 10sec cooldown when bash is 7sec?

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I like how you ignored everything I said in my first post. Your reading comprehension skills must be off the charts.

So i’ll ask again
Brig get a stronger stun because she can kill hero with no mobility
But it okay because SHE could knock them out of her range by using an ability
I also like how you name all the benefits of Mccree

but non of Brig’s
Has a 600 shield to protect her as she stun literally 3 time Mccree health, a stun that last for a whole second, can hit through shield and Genji deflect and she has a knock back ability in case she bit off more then she can chew

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Not the benefits. The advantages McCree has over Brigitte. The only thing Brig has over McCree’s flashbang is the shield, which is susceptible to AoE.

Brig has a stronger stun because she’s a melee hero, can only stun one person, and can’t kill anyone with the follow up combo. McCree has none of those problems, which is what I said.

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Playing as Ana, I just grenade after the knockback and leave

If I get flashed I usually just instantly die without any chance to counterplay

So there’s that

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7 seconds is too low for an ability that does not even require an eighth of the skill it does to properly use flashbang.

Shield Bash just does way too much for what it is. It’s a significant source of her damage. It’s part of her mobility. It is a stun with a hitbox the size of a gd chevelle.

Like I don’t see how people could whine about Genji’s animation cancelling combo (which took immensely more skill than whipshot + shield bash) but not brigitte’s combo.

it is literally a dumbed down and more powerful version of it :roll_eyes:

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Shield bash has to be braindead, if there was an inkling of outplay potential, Tracer players would find it and Brigitte would be pointless.

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lol shield bash isnt even what makes her annoying

its that she has an instant full heal basically, a heal aura and then she has armor from her ultimate that doesn’t decay over any period of time.

legitimately dumber than getting hacked through a wall by sombra.

Shield Bash is irritating but it is in the same boat as flashbang; it is useless against a good tracer unless you catch them off guard

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Yeah, I think the devs ought to lower her shield to 400, make managing the sucker a skill for her players to learn, but it sounds like blizz doesn’t want to go in that direction right now.

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We wouldnt need Brigitte if Mcree damage was 75 in the first place. Buff Mcree

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Flashbang is just as “point and click” as Brig’s shield bash.

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Because unless you are at 150 HP, shield bash combo doesn’t guarantee a kill.
Flashbang on the other hand, can, as Mccree can either FTH or double tap the victim. And it can stun many people at once.

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if you hit winston with flashbang it won’t stun a tracer behind him but shield bash will

flashbang also has travel time. its like, you know you’re talking to someone who almost never plays mccree when they think getting flashbang to actually function and get the desired result out of it 90%+ of the time is as easy as tying your shoes

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Did not realize McCree was a melee hero.

Nice try though

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people are asking for this funnily enough

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Using shield bash now consumes 150HP per bash.

Fixed.

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because McCree is a dps hero which combo does with flashbang 300 damage? get your brain together

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Flash is on a high cooldown because the stun is aoe and ranged, plus it doesn’t work as an anti-flanker attack so why bother lowering the cooldown?

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Oh come on, just check my hours instead of accusing me of not knowing how to play him.
Flashbang is easy to use, its just woefully inconsistent. Also;

This is just flat out wrong. Shield bash can only collide with one person at a time, so there’s only one stun. Flashbang can hit as many as possible as long as they’re still in range and have LoS (player models don’t break line of sight).

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Prove it.

Because I KNOW I have been hit with it when it was aimed at a Winston.

I will bet any amount of money that you are WRONG because I KNOW that you are wrong.

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In this case, the Winston wouldn’t have been stunned and the forgiving and shoddy hitboxes of the characters and abilities are to blame.
Edit: I’ll provide a link to a comprehensive description once I find it again.

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Just to clarify… Your statement is a tracer who is standing behind a winston with no model clipping gets affected at the same time the winston does with a brigitte shield bash?

Let me tell you that a junkrat behind a placed trap doesn’t get affected by a shield bash. The chances of you being right are pretty slim.