Why is Dva being nerfed AGAIN?

but thats not enough. they’re just saying what they’re doing, not discussing it. just because a hero is at the to of the pickrate list doesnt mean they need to be nerfed. if that was the case then there would need to bee nerfs like every week to the hero at the top spot.

also just because she is used in a certain way in the league doesnt mean the rest of the playerbase (which is the majority) needs to play the same way. are we really being punished for things that a few outlying players are doing? how is this fair at all?

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Why do people continue to ignore the lack of defensive offtanks? Gee I wonder why Zarya and D.va see play when there is no real competion to them other then themselves. But this gets ignored.

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I main roadhog, so ults into DM don’t bother me as I can just use whole hog to dispense her DM, but with Zarya you can get screwed to the point where you might never throw out your ult in fear of dva eating it unless you kill her first. But she can fly away before her mech is destroyed

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and then she ults. dva literally has to turn her back and run to save her mech and gives zarya the chance to ult. how is that hard to realize and learn to do?

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You realize that is more than common to get demeched while boosters are on cooldown right on live? Even when boosters were the “correct” thing to do. It happens way more than people seem to realize.

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I was just saying what I think what the reason is for the nerf. That’s it.

The whole PTR patch seems to focused on GOATS in OWL with the Armor nerfs and Reaper buffs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they nerf Dva to tone down her extremely high pickrate in OWL.

Dva is extremely versatile and I doubt the nerfs will drop her pickrate much. I mean, who can offer what Dva can offer? (The same thing can be said about Reinhardt.) There needs to be more similar tanks so Dva (and Reinhardt) can get a niche.

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And what I am saying is that the nerf is not needed in the first place as the sole reason for her pickrate is the lack of competition. And her competition is already better than her on live. D.va on live with literally any competition that is actually serious is nothing more than mediocre at best. Heck I think she might even be looked at for positive tweaks not this because as you said there is very little competition.

Using pickrates is stupid as it neglects things that matter very much like why they are picked in the first place.

Also this is in no shape or form a small change.

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D.VA sucks against widow. Her matrix change doesnt really impact her being decent against hanzo.

Hanzo is far from the only hero that these changes affect. The list is only going to get longer and longer. And yes the changes do effect how she fights hanzo as Hanzo’s storm arrow now has to messed up by the hanzo to not work.

Hero’s are ok to be good in a lot of situations, but for that they should be weaker in every category. Soldier 76 is a good example of this (although i think he’s a little UP right now). No hero should be good at everything. Average at everything is ok. Or great at somethings and bad at others. You should be having to switch off your hero’s through the course of a match. Whenever you’re playing a hero that works all of the time, there is an issue.

So what happens to the rest of the INFINITE amount of damage when D.Va’s matrix is down the vast majority of time?

I don’t know why people blow her up as this oppressive omnipresent game projectile vacuum cleaner that absorbs all damage everywhere, all the time.

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She’s good right now, all you gotta do is think a little when to use DM, good D.VAs will adapt to this fairly quick.

Can’t believe some people react like this while Orisa exists. She literally got nerfed for no reason as she was already underperforming…

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When they halved dm and gave her rockets, thst was actually a buff.

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Honestly if you are playing D.va and using up all your DM on unnecessary damage then you are playing her wrong.

Having a 2 second cooldown on DM forces you to be more conservative with your use but honestly it is balanced. Have you tried it out on the PTR yet?

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i honestly dont think we (dva players/mains) will be able to adapt to this as easily as you think. i personally use matrix to protect my team and myself so that i can stay alive to protect my team. this change feels like im being punished for having both. if i use it solely for protecting my team, then i wont be able to keep myself alive. and a healer shouldn’t have to spend the majority of their time healing just 1 person on the team.

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Zarya works in deathball and dive too. People often forget she has had long periods of time of being the partner of choice for winston over D.va. It is now just an actual decision and one that D.va still trails in being picked as often in. The defensive offtanks are needed and yet lack variety more than any other category.

No this nerf affect basic level interactions in ways that are not even close to being counterplay but outright destruction of any counterplay on the defensive side. Also two wrongs don’t make a right and many d.va’s hate the changes to orissa too. Myself I want every single one of these changes gone and changes instead made to heroes so the counter goats comps don’t get shut down by a single swap like they do in live. I.e Phara against insert hitscan here or Bastion not so wrecked against hack/emp.

Edit: I think a lot of dps lose the hardest out these changes btw Sym and bastion being two of the big ones.

actually no it wasnt, it was a nerf disguised as a buff. dva players didnt ask for their tanking ability to be cut in half because she a goddam tank. it makes no sense for a tank hero to have their main purpose diminished in favor of a secondary purpose (damage output). you think that the people who were crying about matrix wanted dva to be buffed by halving her matrix time?

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literally best off tank for two years and you are still crying about what was effectively a buff

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I think now Dva is useless…

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Her winrate and stats all increased while her damage blocked has stayed up high. She never actually needed 4 seconds. You rarely used it all. It was a net buff. Even if you personally disliked it

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