Why is Bob so much better than Rip Tire?

The hitscans get headshots and the ability to do damage to whatever they click. Why does Ashe get an ultimate that’s almost always reliable(unless Bob runs off a cliff or into an empty hallway). Her ultimate is so much easier to use and get effect than Junkrats Rip-Tire.

RipTire, beside being easy to counter just by shooting at it, or putting up shield or using an escape ability. It makes Junkrat extremely vulnerable, and takes real timing and awareness to pull off getting more than a single kill on an isolated enemy. Sometimes a single kill is all you need, but the tire doesnt sit there contesting point and shooting with 1200 hp.

It just seems like if the hitscan heroes like Ashe and Widow are already dominant because of range, accuracy and critical hits. Projectile heroes like Junk, Pharah, and Sym should get a half decent ultimate abilities. RipTire and Rocket Barrage are almost always suicide and Syms shield is just a lame DPS hero ult.

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Bob is reliable but hardly ever makes plays.

Tire is high risk but a jackpot when hit.

Seems to be working as intended.

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Ashe has more or less no utility and is outclassed by Widow at pure killing potential. The whole point of playing Ashe is to get BOB.

It’s up there with EMP and duplicate for best ult in the category.

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WIth the amount of maneuverability the tire has, it’s way better than bob when it lands it will at least get ONE kill. Bob can be LOSed or just CCed by Ana who is usually around, or rein holds a shield in front of Bob, or your team just melts him. Bob is relatively mediocre mostly because hes able to be CCed.

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It would be better if it wasn’t just a massive wall, but something she could actively bend and twist.

As for Bob, well, unlike RIP tire, you can stack things into him, whether it be nano, damage boost, etc. Sure, you can kill bob, or CC him, but its dependent on how poorly placed he is, and whats available when he comes out. Whereas RIP tire has no such advantages, and has been indirectly nerfed by permitting auto aim ults like tac visor and dead eye to target it.

If working as intended means Junkrat is too bad to ever use in OWL but Ashe is used nearly every game. Then you’re right.

Couldn’t care less about the balance of 1% of playerbase sry mate.

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I’ll settle for that explanation about the trade-offs. Well-done.

Junks Ultimate vs Immortality field. Bob shoots the IF then the people, tire gets 100% blocked.

Used to be better when the only counters were bubbles and beat, or a baity barrier, now you compete with all of that, AND IF is an easy to fully counter with basic ability, it was the perfect anti rip tire ability. That’s why it’s trash and bob isn’t. The ability to pop off in the game had its legs cut off by poor balancing ethos.

And it’s sad that bob running off the cliff and getting stuck on nothing alot is more effective than rip tire :stuck_out_tongue:

Oh yes, I keep forgetting, Junkrat was made for the Bronze players who cant actually hit a tire or time their abilities so hes fine. I just have to play hitscan above gold or my teammates will all hate me if we lose.

What if she was able to change the wall by 90 degrees?

She just needs to be able to manipulate it more while its out there, rather than it just being a single straight line, and thats it. If this means nerfing its height and length to no longer be spanning the map to its limits, so be it xD It was always bizarre to me that they made it that way to begin with.

Bob makes plays almost every game im in.

Ever seen a team focus bob?
He may not even get the uppercut.

The lower your SR the better he is

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Uh duh, the lower SR you are the better every offensive ult is. If he gets killed before he can uppercut it means your Ashe made a terrible play.

Half the time he just shoots pointlessly into a rein shield, completely ignoring the squishies walking out and about in the open. It’s so damn frustrating.

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bob is pretty unreliable he can bhooped out of position hacked slept shielded killed.

He is great in chaos.

Tire is just like junkrat go big or go poof. Tires can win lost fights out of nowhere.

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Bob takes way longer to charge and riptide is up every single fight, plus bob can be useless through hack, sleep, mei wall or just being frozen, both ults are different but good

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:thinking:

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If tire is ever up every fight thats a you being an enormous feeder issue.

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Bob has more than 100HP, that’s why.