I am not a good player and play in the lower leagues so I am pretty biased and in the higher leagues this may not be an issue. BUT:
Why is bastion in the game?
He’s the most unfun to play against character in the game.
In the lower leagues if someone losses a round hard, you can guarantee they are going to bastion turtle. The entire games dynamic changes to kill bastion . It’s obnoxious and everyone knows it. The level of skill and coordination required to break a bunker is so much higher than having to maintain one.
Does anyone have a link to the developers explanation of this?
Can someone offer a different opinion on the matter?
Yeah it sucks, especially when your dps don’t switch to counter.
When I qp dps, if I see a bastion on the other team, I’ll swap to hanzo. I’ll peek the shield if they are shielding the bastion, once the shield is down, storm arrow will make pretty quick work of a bastion.
Or, just bypass the shield and go on the flank. Hanzo is pretty good at that
Granted, that may be a bad plan…probably why I’m low bronze lol. Its a thought though.
Yup, always hilarious as a tank player when my shield gets crushed in 2 seconds whilst we have a Widow that doesn’t flank and gets zero picks as we get rolled.
Luckily Dva, Hog, Sigma and Zarya can be decent vs him. Beaten Bastion before. Still crap design though.
It’s not that Bastion is OP in lower ranks, it’s getting people to counter him is the bigger issue. I agree though, any character that requires the entire team to evolve their comp around it is not only selfish, but moronic. I guess it’s easier to do that than to get people on board to counter it.
It has nothing to do with rank tho, if he is garbage at top tier, he is garbage at low tear also.
Also I would argue that majority heroes is not played at top level. Usualy only meta is. Or few comps with slightly different setup.
This will sound like rank shaming, but i have to say it. Players in low elo often cant deal with bastion, because they dont use head when facing him. I have seen games where bastion didnt have cover and my team mates could not kill him and i could not belive my eyes what they kept doing. Like lemmings one by one running directly into his sight in main entrance for some weird reason thinking they can outdamage him.
Not only they dont switch to counter him, they dont group up and most importantly they dont use angles to shoot him down.
Its not like he is strong in low ranks, its more about players not using head to deal with him. Same goes for torb and sym.
Like few days ago i tell my team mates that sym placed turrets on main exit from spawn, they all go there and are melted anyway even when i said use the side exit. Then they proceed to repeat that one more time this time one by one.
It felt like in jurrasic park where velociraptors try electric fence again and again if its still charge. My team mates just melted and tried again, Yep still there, lets try one more time, maybe someone destroyed it. Nope, still there… Respawn again…
And torb? Turret is ignored most of the time like it doest exist. Dude like i cant count how many times i had to pistol down torb turrets instead of healing or damage boosting.
You are saying low ranked players are stupid and that’s why they can’t deal with Bastion, that’s rank shaming.
Bastion is trivially easy to support in a bunker or pirate ship (and everyone knows how to do it, even in Bronze), and has a super simple high rate of fire full auto gun, but it requires a moderate amount of coordination to tear apart and generally needs a certain amount of peek-shooting skill which is also somewhat more difficult than simple tracking aim.
In short, it’s just much simpler to run a Bastion than to counter a Bastion. Of course, once players are experienced with countering Bastions, that stops mattering… while it’s simple to run, it’s also a fundamentally simple strategy that is difficult to add any more trickiness to, so once players know how to counter him, that’s basically it, there’s no more layers to it.
most low tier players aren’t that smart so it’s easy to take advantage of that with bastion (senseless suppress fire machine) even though it’s easy to counter and requires too much support around the should be deleted hero
I usually just go Pharah or Junkrat and lob projectiles at him until he moves or dies.
Sigma? D.Va? Baptiste? Mercy damage boost? Zen damage boost + volley? Hanzo? Echo? Your own Bastion? If the other team has committed to a bunker strategy then your team should have a lot of room to move.
While I understand why they did it. It just seems like a bad idea now that overwatch isn’t popular and OWL isnt netting much real views either. Frankly they should balance around the largest population of players which is likely gold/plat/silver. I see no issue with this game being casual friendly as it was originally intended.
(sarcasm)