Why I like overwatch 2 so much

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Just saw a post asking if they think ow2 is dying which yeah a lot of people think it is/don’t like it. But I guess I’ll go over why I like it (and no this isn’t a attempt to convince anyone or anything).
Sym, Torb, bastion so I’m on console right these heros were always a problem the problem got so bad that they literally had to globally nerf turrets across console platforms. This was the season I got to diamond. So I was good enough to be diamond (Hell Im a masters now) against every single last other hero on the roster. I would absolutely role people my shot calling was and still is the stuff of legends. But because my shot calling is usually so powerful it leads to “Psychological burn out” soooo the longer the game goes on the weaker my teams mental gets especially since I can get very cringey. Sooo at the end not only would my team be absolutely burnt out they’d have to play against the most difficult comps to play against for is console players.

In ow1 I never won, I never won unless I won twice. So after I had already earned my win it always just feel back on OH WELL CAN YOU BEAT PIRATE SHIP THO? OH WELL WHAT ABOUT IF WE TP TO POINT. oh well can you beat kill gate. In ow2 if I win the game that’s it like the story dosen’t continue nor do I want it to.

And every time I see these heros when people start losing Im reminded each time why I hated that game, when I got to diamond… Every… Single… Match… Was just symmetra symmetra symmetra in low diamond that’s all people used because like it’s such a easy cheese hero to win with back then.

Even now in ow2 you still see people complaining about her and tp to point on lijang sure I’ve gotten use to dealing with her (there is literally 1 less tank), but hay if I shoot her she dies.

“But shes not even that strong and shes not picked that often nor is torb and bastion” it’s because of that and people’s natural bias to look at stats I knew these heros were probably never gonna change. So I’m just stuck in this loop trying my best shot calling like im in the owl and then it’s just all taken away from me in the end…

Do you know what it’s like to have your hope taken from you over… And over… And over… And over… And over… And over… And over and over and over and over and over again. After you’ve tried every freaking thing you think possible to win. Didn’t matter how many videos I watched how many “counters” I went. The worst part of it… It wasn’t even me it was watching and hearing the light fade
from my teams eyes and I keep thinking is it my fault… I got there hopes up so much thinking we can win we played so well because if you play well your supposed to win right? RIGHT?

Then it just turned into these boring games “Oh they went pirate ship guess we gotta copy them or try and hard counter them” oh we didn’t defend on point meanwhile torbs got his turret outside and syms on point whelp guess we lose.

My problem with overwatch 1 v overwatch 2 isn’t as simple as just “Fixing 5 v 5” or “giving us PvE” or “going back to 6v6” nah my problem is because the data and info will never be where I want or even need it to he to prove my point (well even now her and torb have a absurdly high win rate).

Im a support main so maybe I’m being way to empathetic… But everything about going against those abysmal comps in ow1 and just slowly hearing my team losing fate describes a pain in gaming that you will never know.

That’s why I like overwatch 2 better everything I do seems like it matters, even if it’s just a illusion its a illusion that got me to masters, And im just happier in this fantasy…

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Not gonna lie, I definitely didn’t read all of this since it’s quite the wall of text

  • Mostly your closing thoughts

It’s interesting that, as a support main, you enjoy OW2 more than 1. OW1 allowed for significantly sloppier gameplay from the support category to achieve the same level of value you gain in OW2.

  • Perhaps you enjoy the faster pace of OW2 more?

In comparison to OW1, 5v5 was the logical decision to remove dependency on tank synergy w/r to winning/losing a match.

  • The alternative ofc being, throwing tanks in the trash and redesigning them. Which we all know was impossible for these devs

But it also opened up a lot of balance issues relative to gameplay. Their hopes of maintaining the same gameplay experience without having to tweak a lot of things has inherently failed

  • Though they did take the correct steps in tuning down Hanzo/Widow
  • Even though I don’t like those changes, it had to happen with the removal of 1 tank
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Don’t worry when I write long form post they usually get like minimal to no attention anyways then I always get that random guy who like only comes on my random joke post to complain thinking I’ve never written one of these in my life, when truth is all of my post I actually do put thought into look like this and basically just vanish into the abyss.

Okay so I main baptiste right. My bap was goooodddd Im talking goood im overwatch 1 that and my shot calling heck I made friends back to back to back.

In ow2 it now feels like if I win the game I just ya know… Win the game I don’t have to try hard against the literal least skilled heros and comps imaginable to actually win and heck if they do play them I just ya know kill them. Even if the game was slower speed like ehh Im a bap main bunker tho it isn’t exactly my favorite (it’s brawl) it isn’t my least favorite either. It’s just having to win then feeling like I had to win alllll over again no that just wasn’t fun…

I’ve already shot called my butt off I’ve already played 2-3 ranks above my own actual skill oevel I have all the fun gold and silver medals and then 500000000k healing and the 40009990k dps and the multiple “immortality field deaths prevented” multiple fat windows and 4ks and potg and blah blah blah. Yeah yeah thats cool you’ve proven you can go to to to with the entire ow roster? BUT CAN YOU BEAT SYMMETRA THO? BUT CAN YOU BEAT PIRATE SHIP THO? BUT CAN YOU BEAT KILL GATE THO? BUT CAN YOU BEAT DOUBLE SHIELD THO? In ow2 when I win I win… Thats it really and it’s because of “me” and my skills not because I beat a player who couldn’t hit a single shot on Cassidy then just switched to bastion for a cheese win. It feels like the things I do/say actually matter…

Tho matchmaking is still Terrible at the end of season and on the weekends that won’t ever be fixed XD.

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i understand not liking to play against those heroes because they can be a little annoying from time to time (although let’s be real almost all heroes are annoying sometimes) but i just don’t get how you’re struggling against them that much lol, torb sym bastion are like the easiest heroes to counter as long as your team has basic levels of teamwork

torb and bastion have insanely big hitboxes, and sym loses like half of her value if you just play outside her beam range (which is only 12 meters) not to mention she has an insane amount of counters. i onetrick sym in masters/gm lobbies and trust me this hero does nothing sometimes lol

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as long as your team has basic levels of teamwork
^ this against a shot caller is why there so easy to kill in ow2

Oh in overwatch 2 they just die to me repeatedly. Usually there just be ya know a second tank or something to peel for them or preventing me from killing them. Torb is just annoying in ow2 and bastion I mained sigma before jq. It was usually just sym who basically overloaded alll of this combined with 2 tanks.

Like I said in that one part “Every person who goes symmetra in ow2 when I start stomping them and tearing them apart reminds ke if why I hated ow1” and I release that anger on them like a million wild dogs.

You don’t understand why im struggling against those heros because Im not hence why I like overwatch 2 better. Tho even then everyone else around me seems to be still.

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Nope… I’m a veteran of OW Original player, I should tell you about OW2 is completely trash hot and become like a Fortnite system.

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That wasn’t the reason they removed 1 tank. Also tank synergy was never dependent on winning or losing because the other 4 people on your team also need to synergies with the tanks and counter the enemy at the same time. You can have the best “tank synergy”, may they even ply meta - but if the dps and more importantly support don’t synergies then gl winning.

GL diving without a dive dps and Lucio or gl having health with Mercy and Lucio…

Such as?

How has it failed? One example and be specific.

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Tell me you didn’t keep up with the dev updates without telling me you didn’t keep up with the dev updates.

Reducing queue times was a byproduct of the least popular role.

Tank synergy was the deciding factor in 6v6. If you have one tank afk-ing/feeding, the enemy team gains tremendous ultimate advantage and just ult cycled you.

  • Volskya is a perfect example of this

Removal of off-tank (per team) leaves supports much more vulnerable to flanking. Sure, DPS can/should peel but it’s not the same affect or control/denial of space as the off-tank.

Time to kill drops because there’s now 2 less heroes on the field to “tank” damage.

One-shots have been scaled back because the frequency is too high relative to 6v6.

DPS is the least impactful role in the game.

Even in the 5v5 architecture. They only feel impactful because there’s 2 instead of 1.

Control of space is still governed by tank presence and team sustain combined with damage provided greater value than pure damage output (minimal to no team utility).

Lucio hasn’t been dive since 2018 in the 6v6 architecture