So you’re just going to ignore the fact this same post has been posted to you, word for word. Twice. Convenient.
Also ignoring people who straight up admit to false flagging. Nice.
You and I both know you’re not that naive and that is hyper simplifying what actually happened to save face.
You mean a post you were directly quoted in, that you ignored replying to though you did in fact start liking comments made by people who were arguing with me specifically in that thread. Did you actually need somebody to quote it too you again? No. You’re playing naive in order to feel justified in your actions.
In that post I have made a call back to many times you and I have spoke in the past, things you were directly quoted in and made aware of and just like what you’re doing above, you intentionally ignore that fact in order to seem like your argument holds ground.
There’s a difference between adversity and making your detractors have to repost the same comment twice if they care enough to continue arguing with you after the silence ends.
More playing Naive
And yet you failed to acknowledge it when it was actually posted a month prior and only decided too once your little follower was down to dogpile on in yet another thread where you two have done this
No, but cute strawman. What i’m actually referring to is blizzard’s code of conduct.
Harassing or Defamatory
This category includes both clear and masked language and/or links to websites containing such language or images which:
Insultingly refer to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
Result in ongoing harassment to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be given a temporary ban from the forums, depending upon severity
Harassment takes many forms, and is not necessarily limited to the type of language used, but the intent. Repeatedly targeting a specific player with harassment can lead to more severe action. The idea behind this is to prevent any one player from consistently being uncomfortable in the forums.
I’d screenshot and link it but that privilege is gone, so do your own research.
Guilty of refusing to back down in a debate, reinforcing and revising my assertions, and shooting down the arguments made by those who try to do the same to mine? Guilty of initiating civil confrontation and defending those who do the same?
No, what you’re projecting actually looks like what I did.
dog·pile
(of a number of people) join in directing critical or abusive comments at another person or group.
“why do I continue to read endless editorials dogpiling on him after his recent election loss?”
Because it does. The intent behind dogpiling is exactly that. As well as:
It’s Trolling
This post is inflammatory, extraneous or upsetting.
Under blizzard’s code of conduct it’s:
Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
Making non-constructive posts
Again, would quote and link directly, butchaknow.
Regardless, your revision of the term dog piling is your way of appearing innocent in form of harassment you engage in with everyone i’ve ever seen you “debate”, as you like to call it.
No, that’s called conjecture.
Actually that’s a false cause fallacy.
A, b and c might be factual, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re the cause of d.
When it first came out, yeah, as it was instant, still had the 30 second cooldown but could be reset and had an even shorter cooldown during ult.
Then it got nerfed a good few times and became a strong ability that the character is built around like she is in lore.
Again, you actually have no way to prove this and you’ve admitted it in the past. What you do know is numbers you quoted from overall averages. Not from GM specific stats, the less than 1 percent of the player base that wouldn’t have huge impact on the overall average, but is the peak of performance to properly measure from. So, stop.
No see, mobility isn’t “utility”. However, mobility can be impactful. There was a whole meta dedicated to it, that lasted 6 seasons.
So this far it’s been determined your evidence is opinionated, bias, based on conjecture and riddled with fallacy. Literally the whole reason you or I are even having this conversation right now.
See.
You say this as if you know for certain, when you couldn’t have possibly known one way or the other after admitting you hadn’t a clue how to see GM only stats specifically.
Never mind the fact that Mercy’s healing average was higher than Moira’s so that last part is a lie in itself.
Sure, if we go by that faulty logic you’ve created.
Burden of proof is on you. I’ve merely pointed out how your evidence is bad and the possibility of how the right evidence to fit the claim could dismantle your argument. I didn’t present that as fact, you did.
Actually I was referring to this part in that same thread:
So your argument is an ability got better and does more, so it not going on cooldown till after it does the new thing it does makes the cooldown longer and therefor a nerf? That’s not how any of this works, I’m sorry.
Yes, Hanzo was totally worse than Sym in this universe. That actually happened and you’ve never formed an argument from bias and fallacy. Wait…
So wait. Your argument against Mercy’s ultimate even buffed was ultimately unimpactful is she needed something else, which doesn’t affect her ult, to make her ult better.
I’d link you the pc gamer article that goes into discussion of how mercy played out in the pro scene and how regardless that hero needed a rework to see any kind of play in the pro scene, butchaknow. What I can do is link you to one of the comments where it’s linked. Just try not to say this doesn’t exist too.
Mercy currently has e-rez and isn’t in the meta… so, no.
I supposed you have the statistics for that? Pretty sure she was the lowest pick rate even under gutted Ana, with zen and lucio taking the most played.
Okay there’s a contradiction here and I’m just curious if you’re willing to acknowledge it. Either Mercy with chain beams and better mobility was treading on lucio’s turf, making both those abilities strong enough to replace him or they weren’t, she didn’t replace him, and Resurrect is, was, and will always be the only reason mercy’s picked since her rework. You can’t have this both ways.
They made Mercy more of a general healer that can be used in different team comps, while still making sure she excels in her niche of pocketing widow and phara. I’m not sure why that’s a problem.
Main healer does in fact pocket, yes. Ana will pocket her nano target. Moira will pocket her entire tank line. Mercy will pocket her pure damage dps. What you seem to think main healer is, is the healer capable of stopping people from dying from focus fire which is simply not the case, and never has been for any other healer aside from overpowered Mercy. The mercy you’ve grown accustomed too.
Main healer is chosen specifically to aid the specific team comp, making sure the core of that comp is alive and can pull off the combo your team has built around.
So Mercy is now bad with widow, mccree, phara, hanzo, junkrat? No, she’s still great with them. They’re just not meta right now.
My point was specifically invulnerability mass res was much easier to get off than before that buff, so no, those two weren’t numerically complex. As well, Invulnerable mass res is way easier to get off than e rez. You’re actually complaining in OP that it’s too limiting and easily punished in it’s current state, which is a good thing that’s already more complex with counter play than invulnerable mass res.
Weird, i could have copy and pasted that part as now I’ve said the exact same thing in a different way in hopes you’re not actually being willfully ignorant to the point and how it addresses yours. “numerically” you actually have no credible evidence to go off of, you’ve got overall average across all elo and “numerically” does not account for how that ability differs in terms of game play. However, objectively speaking, we know mass res was easier to pull off than Res on E in it’s current form. You even complain about it.
Anything but, actually.
Mass res alone does in fact have counter play now, assuming we put your proposed restrictions on it. In itself, it’s useless. Mercy is right back to where she was pre rework with really no forseeable use in pro play. Though you also propose giving Mercy a new E, which honestly I like the idea. It’s strong, skillful. It’s basically Ana’s sleep dart but different and I’m bias when it comes to that. So yes, a lot of your arguments are absolutely terrible. Individually and picked a part, even more so, riddled with bias and fallacy. Your overall solution does put Mercy in a better spot than she was previously pre-rework though, with a new mechanic that has a lot of potential.
This doesn’t even make sense as a counter argumant and is basically a red herring. I’m not even sure why I should address it, but alright. You advocating valk is terrible and jeff saying valk is strong and e rez is strong therefor nerfing e rez will make it feel less strong and more in line with basic abilities comparatively is much different from the argument you started with, using this quote out of context to say that e-res in it’s current form is too strong. You acknowledging what was left out, in the loosest way possible i may add, at a later time in a completely different point, to make a completely different argument, does not alleviate that.
I’m sure a lot of mains who hate change have thought this same argument, and honestly I don’t have an answer, their may not even be one. It could be as simple as blizzard doesn’t want any hero to be low tier for long periods of time or it could be as complex as Mercy is a great poster girl and forcing her to be meta is profitable. Either way, balance is balance.
Fun is subjective and Mercy by all accounts is relatively balanced in her current state. She’s certainly slightly under powered and does need some help outside of just not being suitable for current meta, but the core of her kit in fact balanced around. A pocket healer who resurrects.
again, subjective
This is not how balancing should work, ever. A hero’s “fun” is subjective. Some will take to the playstyle and others wont and that’s okay, that’s primarily how people pick their mains to begin with. Because you don’t find it fun doesn’t mean it isn’t to others. You could argue what blizzard did with her rework was dirty and I completely agree with that. they changed the entire playstyle of the hero so previous mains who fell in love with her either have to adapt or suffer.
You’re right. I’m a hypocrite. An eye for an eye and all that.
You pride yourself on posts like these being logical, thought out, factual and articulate. Which are all noble traits, don’t get me wrong. In fact a lot of people seem to put you on a pedestal for these same reasons, so much so you have a blind following that just accepts what you say and do without ever questioning it or looking at it logically for themselves, spamming your posts everywhere as if it’s their own thoughts because for what ever reason they can’t hold a genuine discussion. Needless to say when your arguments are critiqued, your detractors are met with a lot more than just a friendly debate with you personally.
Which is the exact reason why I specifically told badwidow I don’t care to engage with you. You and I done this before, I’ve experienced it personally and by all means, be my guest and throw me some bait meme’s. I currently cant post links or images, 'causechaknow.