Not to the extreme of goats. The most important thing is usually getting a pick someone how
Currently no one can get picks so it just about ult combos which isn’t very popular
Tanks were never invincible.
Back in the early days just before dive, you could go through tanks as a team just fine and that is in gold.
I could melt a D.va from her mech while she held up DM.
I could melt a Rein’s shield no problem.
I could deal with any tank in the game just fine.
It is what is around them being not balanced and making them invincible.
Lucio, Zen and Mercy never made tanks invincible.
Ana did when she released and combo’d with Lucio.
And now GOATS makes them this way.
And DPS don’t survive anything to make use of healing.
Everyone will be dead if these changes keep up and we may as well be playing COD or something where only shooting matters.
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Even when we had sniper meta, it was:
- Prepare dragons and graviton;
- Wipe enemy team with it;
- ???
- Objective captured.
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Again, it remains agreement
If you can kill the back line with dive in 4 seconds or go through the front line in 10 seconds with another comp which comp do you think will end up being better?
That is why dive was best other comps took to long compared to dive
While one comp was trying to blow through the tanks shields. Dive was already turning their back line into slop
Except, if you play smart and protect yourselves better.
It was also a statement on how strong mobility was with certain heroes kits.
D.va before Micro Missiles and Short DM and Shooting While Flying, was not as much of a threat in Dive. She was a fairly balanced tank that could sometimes secure a low kill and spent time making space.
She was good for Dive, but mostly because she was the only other good tank option for it because of mobility. Her updates that made her better for Dive helped its dominance when they shouldn’t have made her better at dive because they made her less versatile and less of a tank.
If anything, it showed that giving tanks the capabilities to deal more damage made DPS less necessary and that should have been reverted at all costs.
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Here’s the thing, if I never said it in the first place would you have just posted the same thing?
I doubt it.
Again, superfluous.
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Whether superfluous or not, it is still agreement
Anyways, this got way off topic and I am not interested wasting anymore time on this right now.
The point was, Your only thinking about what you want and the devs don’t and never will balance the game that way.
They think of the big picture and what everyone wants. They have to strike a balance between how fun a hero is to play and how fun a hero is to play AGAINST.
Unfortunate for you Mass Rez was was deem unfun to play against and was removed. No amount of posting is going to change that.
This doesn’t mean that not listen to Mercy Mains, It means they need to listen to EVERYONE
1.07% pickrate in GM
In a game with an ever changing and constantly evolving meta, you can’t expect all heroes to have a high pickrate all of the time. Heroes having a low pickrate doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t balanced.
When you have a hero like Mercy, where the skillset required to play the hero does not transfer well to as many other heroes, it’s only natural that the Mercy playerbase would be upset when she isn’t meta.
Unfortunately for them, no hero should fit perfectly into every teamcomp. See D’va.
Clearly they only think about what the pros want rather than what everyone else wants.
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Strange how we just started a discussion about entirely different balance concerns in this game and not just about what we “want” for Mercy and you dismiss everything by saying we are going off topic so you can say we only care about what we want for Mercy and we don’t see a bigger picture.
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Ok,
3 people want mass rez
7 people don’t like playing against it and want it removed.
What do you do as the dev?
I heard this got closed. Did something happen?
To something common knowledge.
I mean it’s sad you’re trying to use “I think the raid is a bad and dumb idea” as a “look see I CAN agree with people” .
Sorta feels desperate.
But whatever helps you sleep better at night then ok then.
“Whatever helps you sleep at night”
An idiom meaning that one does not believe another’s reasoning and rationalisations for the things they have done.
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More like we are upset, that she was reworked for sole purpose to fit meta. Mercy wasn’t part of any meta before rework.
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Actually,
___ amount of people want Mercy more interesting and skillful to play and have fond memories of Mass Rez giving them that feeling.
___ amount of people don’t like Mass Rez, Rez or just in general Mercy at all.
Now what do you do?
For the first category: You make Mercy fun, skillful and engaging without trying to take away too much of what they enjoy most. Reliability and mobility in core kit. Something different but a little exciting for ultimate.
For the second: You literally just make it balanced and fair to play against, because you won’t have fun playing against any hero unless you are smashing them.
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Cause claiming Blizzard doesn’t know but you do is foolishness. Everyone wants mass rez but blizzard did it because they are evil is a really really bad argument
She was reworked because her previous iteration was unhealthy for the game.
Why do you say the only reason she was reworked was to fit the meta?
Because, somehow, she was avoided by higher tiers, even after nerfs to Ana and Lucio back there. Players had no issues countering her.
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