Why I Dislike the entire Symmetra Rework already

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@OddDuck-11741

That’s true, but that’s only 2 dimensions in a game designed for 3. Having a long crossable shield pop up in one area won’t necessarily let the friendly team dictate engagement, and by no means ensures a close-range brawl.

It really depends on where you put it.

@OddDuck-11741

But all the snipers and soldier have movement abilities that can quickly let them relocate to the other side of the shield. And if your team is dealing with the rest of their team in a fight, there isn’t much vulnerability to their relocation.

Again depends on where you put the shield. Imagine putting the barrier at the point at Ilios ruins. Your team’s Widow has free reign while the other team’s sniper has to move past the shield to do anything useful and that new position might not have the best sight lines.

Even Hanamura second point, Attacking Soldier loves to perch at the high ground. Drop a barrier at the point and he is forced to come down from his comfy position.

The point is that that barrier has the potential to control the battlefield. You are forcing the other team to react or move out of their comfortable position into some place that has inferior sight lines or puts themselves at more risk if the barrier placement is clever.

@OddDuck-11741

With a mobile point that shield will offer less and less protection, and most of the stationary points have high ground above the point (where these people usually sit).

For the mobile point, you are not using the barrier to protect a payload. You are only using it when a team fight breaks out to give your team an advantage. As for the high ground around the point thing, the answers I gave above should suffice.

@OddDuck-11741

If the ult is at the edge of the high ground, they’ll just need to move forward to get their gun through it.

Then don’t do that.

@OddDuck-11741

If it’s placed further back, the enemy team will likely already be pushing the point, providing distraction enough for the high grounder to easily relocate to a different angle.

I would argue that the best time to put down the barrier is when the enemy is pushing the point. That way they are committed and a sudden barrier cutting off 1 or 2 of their ranged DPS for 2 to 3 seconds could mean all the difference in addition to all the stuff I’ve already mentioned above.

@OddDuck-11741

Trouble with the new Tele is that you’re vulnerable while you place it. And if you are placing it while your ult protects you, the enemy team can relocate to or focus the TP exit (remember, they’ll be able to tell when angle you’re looking at and its short range, and mobile heros will be on it in a second [that and the low tp health] making relocation tricky).

@GeoffGoodman

Secondly, her teleporter ability now requires a button input to trigger, but the teleporter works both directions. This means you can do new tricks like tossing it into an enemy Zarya ult from far away and pull your team out to safety. We’ve also seen interesting strats where a Symm can baby-sit a friendly Ana/Zen and place a TP if they get jumped on, giving a mobility out to heroes that don’t typically have that option. There is a small cooldown before you can take the teleporter once you’ve used it, so you can’t just spam back and forth instantly.

Sounds like it’s going to be a rather fast ability. I’m more excited for it already.