And those weaknesses frequently need to be tweaked, like in any other hero-based game.
Then itâs up to Blizzard.
Every projectile is still bigger than a hitscan bullet so heâs not completely wrongâŚ
Which is why threads like this exist, so the community can discuss what about a character works and what doesnât. Blizzard appreciates helpful feedback.
Iâm a console player. The only reason I quoted the PC stats is because snipers are better on PC up top, where aiming is easier. I chose the situation Hanzo was most likely to have a high winrate and, well, the stats speak for themselves.
That they do as hilarious as it is.
What are you actually arguing here? The devs said ânot all that big.â That does not translate to âexactly the same as everyone else.â You can literally test this in the game for yourself.
When I say hitbox, Iâm talking about how close your crosshairs have to be to the character model before a hit is registered. I didnât say that a widow bullet is a physical object that travels through the air. You seem to not want to acknowledge the fact that Hanzoâs arrows require less accuracy than a hitscan hero. And donât tell me itâs evened out by the fact that itâs a projectile. That might make him harder to use at long range because of the travel time, but that point is virtually irrelevant when heâs so close that tavel time doesnât matter. At which point the projectile nature of his arrows become a flat advantage, since they have more opportunity to hit a target as they travel.
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If weâre going by skill hanzo takes way more skill than widow if weâre talking about consistency than widow is leagueâs ahead
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Increased projectile speed, a consistent damage ability and an escape will result in a lower pickrate? I really hope you arenât gonna be one of those people who talk crap about hanzo then lock him off hanzo mains when the rework happensâŚ
Depends on what you mean by consistency. People play Hanzo like heâs Widow with a bow which is the wrong way to play him. If you play him that way of course he isnât consistent and he shouldnât be. At close to mid-range Hanzo, despite his projectiles, heâs far better than Widow and his stronger kit reinforces that.
The general problem with Hanzo is heâs not good enough at long range to be better than Widow who is a long ranged hero and heâs not good enough to be better than the majority of other mid-range heroes like McCree. Basically I think he tries to be too much and ends up mediocre at everything. Thatâs the problem with Hanzo. They need to pick a direction for him to go and go that route. Heâs not a sniper so I think they should stop trying to make him one.
Single shot that can kill 2âŚif you are extremely lucky. One shot two tanks at once, if a tank isnât one of those you know, 400-600 hp targetsâŚdonât try to argue a point based on forum biased bandwagons against hanzo when you obviously have never played hanzo.
No, what the developers actually said is:
They are tied for the smallest projectile in the game
And I donât need to test out anything for myself. The people who literally modeled the arrows that Hanzo shoots have weighed in on the matter. The debate is over. If your results are different from the people who have made the game, then you did something wrong in your testing. Period.
Youâre right, I donât want to acknowledge that Hanzoâs arrows require less accuracy than hitscan heroes because I donât see the relevance. Hitscan weapons, in any video game, are the most accurate by design. It is literally impossible for a projectile to be more accurate. Have you ever played Call of Duty? Because in those games, there are always your hitscan sniping rifles and your projectile-based sniping rifles, and their damage numbers never even approach each other because they function so differently. Youâre aiming at where you guess a character will be, rather than where they currently are. In a lot of ways, Hanzo is built around aiming at everywhere where someone isnât.
I have 300+ hours on Hanzo. I donât talk crap about him.
I am simply remaining skeptical. At the end of the day, people complained that scatter was OP. People arenât going to be happy if its replaced by something better. I am simply waiting to see what happens, but I am not as hopeful as you.
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just wall climb vs widow hook superjump xD