I just found out reaper does 216 maximuk damage per headshot while torb gets 250.
Why… I know reaper shoots faster but why… And ona dps check their dps is similar
What can I say? All that heavy breathing made Torb reeeeaaaaal mad.
The only way Torb can reliably get a headshot is by being picked up by a Rein to be held up at face level.
That is balance.
Height Privileges for the Edge lords.
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^ what they said
Unironically Torb cannot get a perfect shotgun headshot on most heroes due to spread unless they’re crouching. He’d have to be close enough that, due to his height, the angle would make at least a few catch on the torse instead.
There’s a few heroes where it’s possible due to their posture like Ana or turret mode Bastion.
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Reaper also does shoot considerably faster.
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And a near instant reload with shift.
I mean, Torb is twice the character that Reaper wishes he was. I almost never consider picking Reaper ever, Torb does the same shotgun-thing-tank-murdering better but has way more value on top.
All Reaper has is “well I hope nobody sees me” syndrome and I do not like gambling on my opponents being braindead and letting me flank them with the most predictable character in the game.
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Reaper does more damage overall. Torb only does more from his overload which is like on a 10 second cooldown. Torb has more tankiness with his cooldown, but Reaper is overall tanky with his self healing.
If they 1v1, Reaper still have an advantage because of Torb’s hitbox and self healing. If Torb plays more defensively, Reaper may have to use cooldowns to get to him first, which is better chances for Torb.
The main differences between Torb and Reaper is Reaper can self sustain in brawl fights better than most dps in the game. Overload is great for Torb to use IF he gets jumped on in short fights, sustained brawls will wear out Torb. He’s more for defensive poke/zoning with tankiness when getting jumped.
Because his entire hero is meant to cater to bad players.
Torb should be rewarded for hitting M1s. His right click shouldn’t be good.
Because Torbjorn only has one shotgun instead of two. 
Reaper just needs a rework. Keep the guns rework the rest. His kit is the most dated kit in the game.
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because torb works harder than anyone else
Hard work pays off 
especialy seeing how reaper tries to flank with the loudest stomps in the game and over-the-top “WHOOSH” anytime he teleports.
Reaoer is the only steps I can consistently hear from the dps roster. Hell even doomfost is more silent. But you can always hear reaper
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You’re not going to land a headshot with Torbjorn’s RMB. At least, not reliably.
I had this one match Reaper was constantly trying to flank us, always getting caught in the act, all because his steps were so damn loud and we could hear his teleport all the way across the map xD
Hitscan, average health or damage taken is much higher than Torb’s, has lifesteal so the 250 damage would be INSANE for self sustain, has more mobility and an invulnerability state, with a more impactful ultimate.
Dude, Reaper literally yells “FLANKING” sometimes when using his TP and the enemy team can hear it. That is stupid beyond word.
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more impactful ult??
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