I"m just gonna ask something, why do you hate the player (brig/mercy abuser) for tryharding ranked and playing meta ?
Isn’t it the whole point of ranked to aim to win, and, if a hero becomes meta shouldn’t you be better than the others players to climb instead of them ?
I would really like to hear the opinion of someone who thinks that playing meta is abusing the game, because I can’t think of a resonable explanation at the moment.
Playing meta isn’t an issue per se
Playing low-skill high-reward heroes that are currently meta typically is
you’ll rarely see Zarya players getting flamed for playing a meta hero. That’s because to perform well at Zarya you need a very decent amount of game sense/positioning and aim. Or on Ana. Losing to these heroes doesn’t feel unfair.
Whereas to perform well on Brig, you didn’t. Or on broken Mercy a while ago. Or even on D.Va for majority of her existence.
Yeah, you still do. I see bad Brigitte players a lot and back when Mercy was OP I saw many Mercy players saying she was bad (they were just bad with her). Those characters still require good game sense and positioning. You’re simply biased against them methinks
Yeah, it requires so much game sense and positioning that she averaged 56% winrate with a decent pickrate for months. So much game sense and positioning that hardstuck gold people were suddenly climbing to GM by one-tricking Brig, etc. She was by far the easiest hero in the game that anyone could flex to.
Like I said, if a hero becomes meta shouldn’t you be better than the others players to climb instead of them ?
That’s how the ranks balance naturally, but certain heroes tends to have higher chances to get a slight boost in the average sr.
Nothing you said contradicts my position or assertion. Just because some people could climb very far with them doesn’t mean they don’t require game sense and positioning.
I don’t disagree with Brigitte being the easiest character to flex to, but she still requires positioning and game sense like any other hero does. A lot more than some, actually, seeing as she is a melee hero and is pretty useless at most ranges.
That’s assuming that everyone plays that hero, which they don’t
Person X may be an overall better player than you but they might refuse to play a character that’s currently broken. For example, someone trying to play Ana during Moth era. Or people who refuse to flex to Brig out of principle. You will typically win more than lose vs those people since they’re refusing to exploit the broken heroes, but, it doesn’t make you a better player. It just makes you someone who rides the “exploit the currently broken hero for free SR” wave. The moment those heroes get nerfs, you will lose hundreds of SR. If not thousands.
I mean, my point is, those heroes are trivial to get value out of.
I’m not saying you can blindfold yourself and just randomly press keys and expect to win, but, comparable to most other heroes in the game, they are far more forgiving, far more immune to making mistakes and require vastly less game sense and positioning since their kit is good enough to bail you out of any mistakes that you make.
Well should the game reward you because you don’t want to flex to a hero, let me be clear on that, is CONSIDERED less skilled, because there is no way to mesure that accuratly, instead of the person flexing to adapt to the meta?
You mean they were trivial to get value of. Neither of them are OP anymore, yet both require positioning and game sense.
I disagree that they require less game sense and positioning. Mercy has to reevaluate her position every couple of seconds to make sure she can Guardian Angel to a safe spot while still being where she needs to be at that moment while. This is hard to do when you have a Genji + Winston on you.
Sure, if the enemy team can’t play and doesn’t flank then Mercy may as well autopilot, but the fact remains that she requires good game sense and positioning to get value out of.
A lot of the same can be said for Brigitte, you need to be positioned in such a way that is inconvenient for your enemy, allows you to heal, allows you to attack (hopefully), allows you to peel, but also lets you live.
These characters require these abilities. Don’t even get me started on ultimate tracking.
Ideally, characters like that should be hotfixed so that they are never free SR to begin with. Characters like that shouldn’t exist. Any new character that gets added to the game should be intentionally undertuned and then slowly incrementally buffed so that broken characters never exist. But instead, Blizz keeps replacing one broken character by other broken character.
Considering only 12% of the playerbase typically uses the META, there is a high volume of complaining about it. #higheloproblems
Yeah, I’m sure that managing a 1.5 second cooldown ability with a 30 meter range is anywhere comparable to what other healers have to do to stay alive and useful. With the exception of Moira, but, that’s basically the only utility she brings, being more robust than other healers.
This is hard to do when you have a Genji + Winston on you.
She has more mobility than either of those. It’s much harder for a Genji or Winston to kill her than it’s for her to outplay her.
A lot of the same can be said for Brigitte, you need to be positioned in such a way that is inconvenient for your enemy, allows you to heal, allows you to attack (hopefully), allows you to peel, but also lets you live.
Having a 500 HP personal shield, a pretty decent self-heal and a heal that can’t be missed makes all those things much easier than you make it out to be. Are there differences between Brigitte players and are some Brig players better than others? Yeah, absolutely. Was it trivial to get a very big amount of value out of her simply by picking her and W + M1? Absolutely yes. Even now, where she isn’t OP, she is still extremely hard to take down assuming that the player playing her isn’t braindead.
These characters require these abilities. Don’t even get me started on ultimate tracking.
Every hero in the game needs to track ultimates. Heroes with a defensive ult (Zen, Lucio) need to do it more than Brig or Mercy or Moira.
I like tryhards on my team but i faced against goats for the first time today. 5 of my teammates all picked dps so i went Lucio in hopes of a chance of winning…most unfun bs i ever experienced in overwatch
Do we play the same game? Even if she dashes away winston can confirm almost 100hp and so genji, if they play together mercy can be an esay pick unless she gets help from her team. that’s is called a team based game
Yeah just rally and brawl in agaisnt a phara with barage or just coalescence against an emp or just fly with valk agaisnt a mccree with high noon
It’s becoming clear you don’t play supports unless you have to. It is easier to stay alive with Lucio than Mercy for instance. The only supports harder to stay alive with, when being attacked/flanked/etc would be Ana and Zenyatta (if they cannot kill or land their skillshots)
You also left out that this ability with 30 meter range can ONLY take you to an ally. An ally, mind you, that is likely in a fight. You have to dash to them in a mostly straight line that is easy for any competent DPS to track.
Yeah, you don’t play supports.
Or you play in Bronze.
I can easily send this back to you saying that any person who isn’t braindead should be able to avoid her and kill her.
It’s not a competition. I’m saying these heroes have to do it also.
You’re pretty angry, so I may just leave it at that.
I suggest playing supports at a level above bronze and you will see what I’m talking about. The comment about being able to outplay Genji+Winston easily gives away your ignorance.
Do we play the same game? Even if she dashes away winston can confirm almost 100hp and so genji, if they play together mercy can be an esay pick unless she gets help from her team. that’s is called a team based game
She doesn’t even have to get help for her team. All it takes is for her team to exist so that she has GA targets. She can leave both of them stranded in the middle of her team with no cooldowns and meanwhile she’s safe far away.
Yeah just rally and brawl in agaisnt a phara with barage or just coalescence against an emp or just fly with valk agaisnt a mccree with high noon
All of the things you mentioned are very different from blowing your ult prematurely as Zen and leaving your team exposed to a Dragonblade.
You have a fantastical, unrealistic idea of how a teamfight goes from Mercy’s perspective.
I honestly want to know how long you have on supports
I honestly want to know how long you have on supports
Least played category, by far.
You have a fantastical, unrealistic idea of how a teamfight goes from Mercy’s perspective.
Not really. Just try playing a mobile hero and watch how hard you get punished for prematurely diving in and mismanaging your cooldowns and how much the Mercy will GA away from you.
Now let’s think backwards, the mercy can’t dash away, she dies to a single genji because he took “risks”, the mercy is dead, she can’t rez and the team loses the fight.
Mercy can’t be killed so easily, because she is a main healer and try to survive 2 secs in the middle of the ennemie team while you are focus number 1.