Why does every new hero released has to be more cancerous than the last

Cancerous is the best way to describe each hero that has been released. Baptiste/Ashe was probably the only balanced hero in recent memory that wasn’t extremely overpowered.

Played a game today against a double shield, Doomfist, Echo, which is possibly the newest cancer comp. I can see it now. Overwatch league is literally going to be an echo fest. It’s practically going to be all GOATS all over again. Who thought that this was going to be fun?

4 Likes

Cancerous is the child’s word for people not smart enough to come with a proper ability to articulate their problem with a hero. All it shows by using it is a general lack of proper ability to be able to describe what one dislikes.

19 Likes

Maybe I wanted to dumb it down so people like you can act and feel superior.

9 Likes

Because Jeff and devs cant use PTR properly.
They dont listen to the players enough.

By far, this is the worst hero ever made in OW.
She should get some rework to a healer.
But sadly they like to destroy this game and watch it die slowly.

17 DPS
7 Healers
8 tanks.
32 total.

You dumbed it down because if you tried to use real words to describe the problem it would fail, because Echo’s ult might be a balance problem but the rest of her is fine and an engaging and fun hero to both kill and play.

1 Like

she is fine, she isnt even “cancer”.

at least she has no cc.

I agree with that wholeheartedly. It’s frustrating to play zen against echo when you have a Reinhardt on your team. We literally got shattered 3 times in a grav when Echo Rein Echo consecutively shattered through transcendence. Great mechanic.

Her kit is fine, her Ult is beyond broken.

I have a moderate problem with the ult (just let her die when she dies, please) and a major problem with the beam. 200HPS on an 8 second cooldown that also breaks shields and ignores Matrixes is stupid.

2 Likes

The Devs Nerfed Mercy’s healing a while back from 60 to 50 because they felt her healing was TOO strong and with REZ, she was considered a MUST PICK. When she was nerfed, the other healers thrived. We had a more robust healing line up with that nerf.

If a hero is considered a MUST Pick to win then you have major imbalances. She feels that way right now.

So even more “Cancerous” than release Brig?
What’s after cancerous? Something about the coronavirus? Can you use words that do not say “i’M A cHiLd aNd iLl cOmpLAiN aBoUt sTuPiD sTufF”?

Give it more time, but it does feel that Echo is totally overloaded. I expect some swift nerfs.

Echo’s ult

1 Like

just farm a valorant key and say goodbye to the trashpile of a game.

1 Like

Excuse you, Echo came out in the middle of April, she’s CLEARLY an Aries.

1 Like

Only place I think she’s really overtuned is her beam. It’s on far too low of a cooldown for the amount of damage it provides. Lowering the DPS on it would probably be nice. It’s good for her to have a precision hitscan option but I think it’s a bit too effective as a finisher.

Other than that I could see maybe a small tweak to her ult charge rate again or ult charge generation once she’s copied someone.

Aries gang! :gun: :gun:

1 Like

There are a lot I can think of. My “what the heck” parts of her kit playing as and against her is that she’s too good at everything. So maybe taking a hit to her beam, or to her sticky bombs would be the way to go.

Or…idk, maybe making it so her actual abilities are countered by hack or something. It makes no sense that she can be hacked/stunned/slept during her flight, and then she comes back…same with when she exits out of Duplicate - all CC wears off on her and she gets a free life.

They nerfed the sticky bomb already on the PTR. It used to be able to one shot lol. I think nerfing the beam and the sticky bombs would make her too inconsistent but only time will tell.

I think a nerf for when she exits Duplicate would be just about the harshest nerf you can give her. I don’t think I’ve played enough as or against her to be able to say if it’s necessary.

Echo is pretty countered by DVA, Widowmaker (if they can aim), Ashe, Bastion (a bit), Zarya (she just get charged up real fast) and Sigma, imho.

That’s the neutral game counter. I’ve never seen a character who had literally an I WIN button like echo currently has. The thing about echo that that it lasts as LONG as the Less longest Ults in the game. Winston, Brig, Mercy and ults last longer than most (10, 10 and 15 seconds respectively). Duplicate lasts for 15 seconds (As long as Mercy Valk) and can generate multiple ultimates within those 15 seconds. I’m sure more people would be upset if a Valking Mercy could pulse bomb and shatter during her ultimate,.

There is a video of the Pro player Danteh generating 10 pulse bombs within those 15 seconds. Obviously that is in perfect conditions and him hitting every single shot. But the average player can get 2-3 within an ULT.

This is the equivalent of release overwatch where there was no hero limit but worse. This one echo has more power than any of those heroes at launch.

1 Like

Mission successful, pack it up boys, we’re going home.

1 Like