Why does doom do so much but ball cant

why can doom fly around and kill supports but ball cant and his cooldowns are lower and hit box is bigger

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Wrecking Ball is far deadlier to supports than Doom. And I’m a support player.

Ball also flat out hides his crit box 90% of the time.

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Ball is way better than Doom at killing supports/snipers plus he can stay alive and stall points much longer.

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No, we’re not even gonna go there.

Ball is the most annoying tank in the game, far more annoying than Winston. WB could be gutted for all I care. He was an interesting design for OW1 but simply does not fit into OW2 at all.

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Ball is literally the better hero

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True, but doom’s stupid power arm charge move or whatever always seems to be off cooldown lol, so it’s not like you can hit his head most of the time, either :joy:

Weirdly enough I feel like I still have been able to headshot him even though he’s blocked, even before this recent bug happened. But idk if that’s placebo or real

I’m about to log in, I’ll report back lol

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Okay it definitely reduces the headshot damage he takes, but I’m not sure about the numbers yet.

The block reduces all incoming dmg by 80%… so if he’s shot in the head while blocking… I’m trying to determine if the normal damage the shot would perform is reduced by 80%, or if it’s the crit damage that would’ve been received that is reduced.

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Ball doesn’t have a critical hitbox when rolling around, plus his shield ability. on the saurface what you say makes sense but because of the things i mentioned he’s not.

i do think ball needs adjustments though.

Doomfist is a buggy mess that is almost constantly broken in one way or another every patch

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You’re playing with a bad ball

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Simple answer is it MUCH harder to be a ā€œgoodā€ ball player. An ok Doom fist with a simple rotation of skills can be effective. A ball with basic knowledge of swing and say can do some of his tech like some of time is going to be in a far worse spot. He’ll get stuck in doors and windows and ricochet of things he didn’t expect and get body blocked. He wont know grapple points for environmental kills and to get to hard to reach high ground. Learning ball isn’t just about his skills but how use those skills on every map and every position on those maps. That gets you to plat, then you need to figure out how to play against the many counters Ball has if you want to get higher.

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sure, he has good mobility, how is that different from wrecking ball?

does not wrecking ball have far greater mobility than even doomfist?

he can literally roll indefinitely around the map at high speed, i dont see how that is less mobility than a winston leap and a genji dash…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

spoken like someone who plays neither doomfist or support :joy: :joy: :joy: :joy:

yea, except that he has way more health and shields than doom AND his ball form hides his head hitbox…

just dont make anymore posts, you need to actually play the game before you say such silly things

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This is a great description of WB. As a noob I am working my way through all the Heroes and learning the game. WB is great in skilled hands, but it will take me many, many hours to get a modicum of skill on him. Such a cool hero.

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Buddy

100 x 2 is 200. What’s 20% of 200?

100 x .2 is 20. What’s 20 x 2?

You’ve been playing with bad balls

Ball murders teams by disrupting their cohesion, ESPECIALLY supports that get wrecked by swing through piledrive guns.

This

Instructions unclear. Try once more with feeling :joy:

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What? Ball is straight-up busted right now in the right hands. Good Ball players can delete basically any squishy in the game at-will, and if their opponents swap to counters then it doesn’t really matter because Ball has so much HP and a massive knockback resistance, on top of most of the game’s CC being outright removed. The only 2 heroes that can consistently shut a ball down are Sombra and Mei, and good Ball players still outplay them.

The only players that get more value on Doom than Ball are absolute gods at DF who would likely still hard carry on Ball regardless. If you can’t wreck the enemy supports as Ball then it’s a skill issue.

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what yall dont know is im a masters ball