30% recoil buff a month ago, and now a double regen burst buff?? Was he not survivable enough already LMAO???
Can any Bap players tell me if your hands actually get fatigued playing him, or if you struggled to stay alive on him?
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no i dont, i have no clue why this was done lol. range change is whatever but the 1 sec off the cooldown is really pointless besides microbuffing
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I have certain pictures that I will release to the press if Bap doesn’t get buffs. 
To be serious for a second: no to both. As far as recoil goes, I thought it was more noticeable on S:76 than on Bap, although S:76’s doesn’t exactly cause fatigue either.
If anything, I’d nerf Bap’s damage down to 24 per bullet to start with, and change IF to redirect negated damage to the drone.
My guess is that, like Ana getting buffed up to 80 per shot, it’s power creep as a response to Juno domination. But what do I know.
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Bap is a menace support that’s just held back by the current meta, buffing him continues to be questionable
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Can’t find a single bap player in high ranks who asked for recoil buff
The only thing that I can think of is that they don’t want to nerf Juno anymore but are looking at ways to even out the playtime. Bap didn’t need buffs.
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that’s a major issue to be honest
but i guess we’ll see if the dps passive buff is enough to indirectly tone her down
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Also possibly the Brig nerf. Juno without Brig is significantly weaker than Juno with Brig.
Same reason why they buffed Orisa, the patch makes very little sense. Hell they buffed Ashe too, why?
They’re probably trying to make him appealing at all ranks for some reason. Or bc he’s hot and funny next question
Actually with all the dps buffs, especially the passive, I don’t think it’s going to make that much of an impact. It’s definitely a buff but I’d wait and see how much it actually changes things. Imo they’re helping DPS and DPS support to stop some Rivals player loss. Rivals basically being openqueue affects the DPS playerbase most.
As a 130-hour Bap, I have an answer for you. And that answer is: I don’t know.
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that’s fair, i guess the dps passive changes will be big enough to indirectly nerf supports
Because he is cutiepie
Bap is such a weird hero,he’s been genuinely OP for so long now,but you don’t see people play him all that often.
They’re trying to change the support meta without hard nerfing their new $$$ machine.
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Just thinking aloud here…
Many midrank players swap to Bap when they have a Rein. I see it ALL the time in Plat. 99% of their money likely comes from midranks.
Doomfist annoys the EF outta Rein. He got nerfed.
Mauga nerfed who counters Rein pretty darn hard.
Orisa (and Ram) were buffed though. Both annoying to play Rein into. Both brawl tanks. They trying to encourage brawl meta methinks?
Pharah nerfed, annoying hero to play rein/brawl into.
Sym TP buffed… They trying to encourage brawl TP shenanigans?
Torbjorn turret and hammer buffed. Buff the silly fun brawl thing Torb can do. Maybe he gets to do it more often in Brawl meta.
Lucio buffed for Brawl meta.
So now you ask why buff the poke heroes if they want brawl meta? Juno is still going to be hard meta and will be virtually unkillable if you just go full brawl. So they want Brawl/poke hybrid. And give more options to kill Juno…
Just my rambling thoughts. It still looks like mythic balancing to me while they try to fix the juno problem around it. Or… 50/50 effort to try achieve both.
Fatigue question; hands and eyes both yes for me, fantastic change, though he deserves a damage nerf for it too
Second change; stupid buff as he was already great at survival. But I suspect they did it because of the dps passive buff. For that reason I find it acceptable.
Bap is too hard, pls blizzard buff him again my poor mind got a bit sleepy holding right click