Why do the devs hate DF?

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What’s with these nerfs? It made him way less fun to play and he’s not even the best tank… Is it to give JQ more spotlight?

And that bugfix aka obvious nerf…?!

If you get stuck with bombs from the front you should reduce damage, this should be applied to Cass and Tracer as well, if it’s from the front IT’S REDUCED — why are there random things that don’t follow that rule??? Power Block is so stupid when simple things like this bypass it for free…

I love the rework but I don’t get the nerfs, he wasn’t oppressive in the slightest in the 1st beta, people just needed time to adjust. I don’t see massive plays in OWL as well with him, Winston still dominates (they nerfed him as well, not sure about the ult nerf but that bubble was stronger than in OW1 that had 1 more player per team in play ?!)

Hopefully he gets a buff in this upcoming patch - slam is underwhelming, power block is hilariously bad with these 2 nerfs the only thing going for him is the charged RP (don’t you dare nerf that as well)

These nerfs remind me of the dark times DPS DF got destroyed by a single patch… people still complained though — let’s hope we change that for tank DF

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I personally think the damage version is way more fun.

For me he is fun because of his lethality in overwatch 1. I mean he still has lethality now but it’s all contained within his primary fire. I’d much rather they went in the other direction and took away his primary fire altogether for the tank rework. Put more power into his other abilities. Now he’s just another aim reliant hero like so many other heroes. There should be heroes that don’t focus so much on aim but focus on ability usage more. Doom should be one of those heroes.

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Doom is dead. People played him because he was an unstoppable force. A killing machine. Now he’s just Winston without a bubble.

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CC, he had too much of it to balance around and with only one tank he would demolish them.

Not saying a rework was the best solution to it though.

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Also, didn’t know that the DOOMFIST was a reference to his shooting hand and not the gauntlet since it does way more damage than anything else… :slight_smile:

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Subjective Alert

I find tank fun and Doom more fun there than he was DPS. To each their own.

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The slow interact with meteor strike in a way devs didn’t like, it made basically impossible to evade and I kind get that.

The power block thing I don’t get either.

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Bruh this has to be a joke

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Yeah but you think every choice Blizzard makes is good so no one takes you seriously.

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God forbid the worst ult in the game is useful for once

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I get that, but slow was what made slam great…

If they don’t want it back they should buff his passive from 30 to 35 or 40 (might be an overkill) — since slam is what generates it the most.

Make RP aoe damage everyone and not just knockback, maybe with reduced damage but it’s not like RP does any damage.

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Of course it’s fun to delete things in a few milliseconds. Just so long as you are the one doing the deleting and not the one being deleted.

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Devs have indicated Tankfist will get more changes.

It’s fine, it’s a beta afterall.

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That may be the dumbest thing I have ever read…
“Tank is not a fun role” that is a joke, tank can be plenty fun and have fun and interesting characters (kinda like ball). He was not more fun due to his kill potential, he was more fun due to his high skill floor and his parkour. It was fun getting big slams and then going in! Put in about 100ish hours and you will see, do it fast before Bliz deletes him :smiley:

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And you think everything is aweful so both of you are extremely biased imo

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Fine the interaction with his ult, but that’s literally 70% of his cc. He lost all his dmg on his punch (his uncharged punch is weaker than a melee btw) to get cc on the slam!!!

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I hope so, they never liked him and that’s what bugs me the most.

Hopefully things will change and DF’s awesomeness will be there again.

I love both DPS and Tank variations, but DPS kind of fell off in higher ranks since it’s do or die and he had the hardest counters to exist. Tank role is where he belongs, I just hope he’s not useless in 90% of scenarios.

Also meteor strike has minimum damage of 20 … why not 50?

20 is just a joke…

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Agreed, I’m mostly upset they got rid of uppercut slam. It made doomfist feel sooooo good

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Not sure I disagree with them giving Sym compensation nerfs last beta patch

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Maybe devs are trying to bring back the Slam pull and loss of air control effect.

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