Seems like I never get a game where someone on the losing team doesn’t say “xx diff” after the game is over.
Why do people feel the need to say it in public chat? Is it that it makes them feel better about losing if everyone, including the opposing team, else knows it it isn’t their fault?
Not saying it is or it isn’t toxic. That’s not what this thread is about, so please don’t talk about toxicity. This thread is about why it’s done in the first place.
Some people say it to be sore winners.
Some people say it to be sore losers.
Some people say it because it’s supposed to be constructive criticism.
Some people say it because it can also be competitive smack talk.
It’s case-by-case. If you mistake it for uniform, you’ll just make yourself an angrier person (see above).
But yeah, it just means there’s a gap or difference between the performance of the respective role on each team, and that difference is what caused the outcome.
I am never angry about people saying “xxx diff”, as explained by my answer of what I believe it is. Why would I be angry at people trying to “wash their hands” of their responsibility for the defeat? Let their heads stay buried in the sand, what do I care?
There is no conceivable way of thinking of “xxx diff” as constructive criticism.
It’s largely used to shift blame or gloat over a good performance.
I can blame the loss on thier tank/dps/supports being the better players than my own, or boast about how I feel I performed notably better than the opponent’s reciprocal even though 9 time outta 10 it is most likely a gross oversimplification.
First, I was talking about the post above yours being angry, not yours. Way to jump the gun on that.
Second, pointing out an objective difference is constructive criticism. Mistaking one’s own tunnel-vision perception of a situation derails it into subjectivity, and that is where it strays from constructive criticism.
Third, again, it’s case-by-case. If you mistake it for uniform, you’ll just make yourself an angrier person.
Angrier people jump the gun and have tunnel vision. I know because this is a problem I’ve had to overcome in myself. You just did both. My saying so isn’t angry or toxic, either; it’s constructive criticism.
I would like a reply from you on the matter, but try not to make it a post that can be summarized or paraphrased as “well, no, you’re just crazy/not listening/angry yourself/stupid,” because that will kinda further my point. I do want to see how you fare with these pointers.
While I’m not them, to be fair, it’s a little plain to see you’re intentionally writing this response in a very condecending way. I don’t exactly think you’d be getting a balanced response at this point, but part of me wonders if your intention isn’t actually to just see if they’ll go further down the well.
It can be taken as condescending, for sure, but to carry on in fairness, I’ve been in those shoes, and I do know how infuriating and frustrating it is to be tied down by the kinds of assumptions and selective listening they seem to be going on.
It does my heart good to see someone begin to overcome that. Worst-case scenario, yeah, I can consider it a laughable waste of time, but I like to hope first. I don’t consider anybody an enemy.
Then you should have made that clearer. Either by using quote or by replying to that comment.
Not true. Saying “You’re obese” is not constructive criticism. It’s simply criticism. Saying something like “You’re obese, maybe try adding exercise to your daily routine” is constructive criticism. A plain statement is not a constructive criticism. Similarly, if s a player said “tank diff, Hawba next time consider switching to Zarya against D.va”, that would be constructive criticism. Saying “tank diff” isn’t.
You can split it down, but as explained above the constructive criticism is not one of the viable options.
Almost, but you’re still looking at only one case rather than all of them. For that matter, matches close rather abruptly; there’s only so much time after the fact to really address what happened during the match. Some players are angry and resort to it for any number of dumb and demeaning reasons, as you’ve said, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t exceptions. Airport security can sometimes catch toenail clippers in luggage because it’s sharp and metal, but that doesn’t make the owner any kind of offender.
Come to think, I haven’t seen an explanation. I’ve only seen it stated. Stating it doesn’t explain it… and that sounds familiar.
And here’s where door number 2 is chosen. I’m glad you caught that it’s constructive and not an insult, but I’m a little surprised you managed to catch it without grasping it. That’s actually pretty interesting.
And we go further down the path behind door number 2.
Oh well.
You do seem to have an aptitude toward sharpening. I think you’ll get there in due time.