Overwatch is the only game I have ever played that I see it happen so constantly!
Other games have you dying around a corner but I never see a shot I blatantly hit do nothing in other games. If you get the animation and sound for a hit on your screen, surely it should count as a hit right? That is what favor the shooter is for, so even if you are lagging, you know that the “gun-play” of your game won’t be affected.
I quit Overwatch for over a month and came back today…
I had great fun but then I shortly remembered why I quit in the first place.
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Here ya go: (Note, this is a video from 2016, but still mostly relevant).
Here is also a big post by another one of their engineers on the subject:
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Yer I’ve seen this and honestly I’ve got a lot of problems with Blizzards giving basically every mobility ability in the game favor the defender…
If Winston leaped and my shot didn’t count because of it, that is BS!!
If I saw on my screen that my shot hit, then it should count as a hit!
Mobility abilities already make you harder to hit, they shouldn’t basically give you i-frames as well, that is BS!
However, honestly that is not what I am talking about in this thread.
I have already come to terms with Blizzard favoring any type of mobility and the BS no-reg’s that come with it.
I am talking about the no-reg when the enemy is not using any abilities, I still get them all the time, I could shoot at an A-D spamming person and it still occur. That is BS right? No favor the defender BS should be making that happen, that is just the netcode taking a massive dump on me.
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Well, in general there are three “copies of the game” running at a given time.
The game on your screen
The game on the enemy’s screen
The game on the server
When there’s a big mismatch between any of them, because of lag, then the server usually applies rules to decide who wins and who loses.
And usually that prefers the shooter, but I imagine that in more extreme circumstances where the shooter is lagging, but the dodger/server are not, that it may not favor the shooter.
If they didn’t do that, then a Widowmaker with a very laggy connection would automatically get easy kills.
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I agree there should be a max limit in terms of compensation when someone is lagging but it is muchhhh too small atm.
If I am getting no-reg with 30ping then I would hate to think what is like for anyone with higher ping than me.
Once again in every other games I feel like the leniency is much larger. Sure sometimes I die around a corner which hardly ever happens in Overwatch but at least I know the “gun-play”, the most important aspect of any fps in unaffected.
Sure Overwatch is not a traditional fps but c’mon the core mechanics of aiming in the game is still there and should be prioritised. If I feel like I can’t get better at the game or there is no point to because I am receiving no-reg then I think there is a problem…
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Bf1 takes the cake on no reg for me. It was incessant.
They’re fairly uncommon in overwatch, but man when they do show themselves…hair ripping skin peeling frustration because it can result in a lost team fight. Whereas in battlefield or the like you just die and respawn.
Super frustrating. But I remember playing counter strike on hacked net zero dial up…so I’ll take the occasional internet woopsie gladly.
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Is it just me or have the no-reg hits become a lot more obvious or common since the last big update? Quite often now I’ve seen my bullet trace as Ana go right through the target and hit the wall behind and don’t remember that happening so much before.
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You’re not factoring in latency
I’ve been getting that a lot lately. Ghost misses and hits. Sometimes it seems like I hit, but nothing happens, others the person takes the damage, even gets picked, but no hit sound is reported.
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Actually the no-regs in most cases are because of your target’s ping not your own. Or rather your ping is not the issue, but rather the ping between the main game room host and the server. Just because you have 30 ping does not mean much if the game is being played mostly by people with 150 pings and its favoring them instead of you.
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this got really bad when doomfist was added in ow 1 and has only gotten worse from there its now ow2 and this bug has gone ignored and untreated for so long that its for some people with good internet 30% of shots are being ignored and with spectrum locking people out of their routers and this causing after market modem and router prices to skyrocket it feels like being in a vice
i think aimassit is made to compensation for justifying joysticks not being modernized to let people compete without cheat
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turrets using the server to find lock and shoot compensation for people with bad ping basically being a form of cheat
i think companies have been justifying not innovating or fixing things for a long time because Nintendo has almost tanked time and time again trying to push the veil but they where the Cindarella story amoung the graveyard of others who made consoles and devices so good and reliable that they still work today but the where over shadowed for one reason or another mostly licensing,trade mark and programming platform issues (the rich get richer by cheating or “gaming” the system)
this who bit of nonesense has let the gaming publishers on top be over run by CEOs and public stockholders who care nothing about the health of the landscape be in charge of the resource allocation so thats why there is always a new skin or trinkit to buy or a new PAY TO WIN feature that is just barely able to be argued is PAY TO NOT GRIND but the only way that i would say is fair is how DE did plat in warframe WOW copied that system some and it was great i get to support a company i respect and someone with more time then me and i can trade goods and share interaction why not it shows our time has value to them and this is a sentiment that has been lost of the over watch team since jeff left and it shows more and more to those of us who quit and come back we are frustrated that blizzard isnt what they once where and can always be its like they refuse to care about its really devoted fan base that doesnt match with why blizzard became the staple in all our childhoods and teen years and adult lives it hurts me personally that they have fallen so far and seem to never listen unless it hurts the bottom line we should have to use ultimatums to get some feedback or thoughts or dialogue about what we see as an issue its not cool blizz
people dont like being ignored it makes people angry because it hurts to have invested so much into and idea for nothing
I play on an old PS4 and I can physically see my game rubberband in an instance with frame drops when I get cheated out of an interaction. Particularly with charging/dash abilities, hog hook, and landing projectiles. I wish it was consistent but this BS seems to trigger after playing for a while, as if the game suddenly decides to start favoring the other team’s players because I was winning too much (as crazy as that sounds).
But I truly do tend to start my nights with massive win streaks only to shift into buggy losses.
Of course playing hitscan still favors me with regs for some weird reason, even when I am genuinely lagging via my internet provider. Makes no sense.
