Why do I rank up if I go 5-5?

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It actually happened twice in a row. Went 5-5 expected to get put in same rank but I gained 100 SR each time? What?

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Your doing well in all your games so your gaining more then your lossing

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Cause SR and MMR aren’t the same.
SR is what the games shows you.
MMR is hidden, based only on winrate and is used for the game to set up matches.

With 5-5, one can assume your MMR rather stays the same.
We don’t know how SR is calculated.

I made a big session the other day : from 52% winrate to 51%, the game dropped me from G3 to Silver1. I kept pushing and in 2 hours, I was back to G1 in 10 wins (my winrate is still between 51 and 52%).

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Not even the devs know at this point.

We need to have an “ask me anything” where the devs get to ask Overwatch players how the matchmaking works.

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They do.

It’s because the OPs MMR is higher than their currently displayed rank and as such they’ll be gaining more in victory than they lose in defeat.

It’s fairly simple.

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I have just under 50% win rate and am steadily climbing. I think it has a lot to do with your performance in each game, and some games might be weighted more heavily than others. So games where I perform well and lose don’t kill my SR in the long run. Then, maybe you are winning a game here and there that you weren’t favored to win giving you an extra boost. It does feel weird to climb when you are losing as much as winning though. I truly hope it penalizes you less when a teammate leaves the game, I’ve had an unusually high rate of those which might explain it. I play tank and my understanding is that it is mirroring tanks near your rank (or is it mmr?). I was plat and beat a couple diamond tanks handily, explaining a rank up even with a less than stellar winrate.

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It’s absurd, counterintuitive and actually makes me laugh right out loud. Hey matchmaker, why not just make his visible rank the same as his MMR since that’s what you believe his skill is? DURRRRRRRRRRRRR

Seriously, a month, I’d have this all fixed in a month and give these baby boi matchmakers a nice vacation. Keep em drunk and distracted on an island somewhere and out of my way.

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Why does it matter? You’re playing with people of similar MMR (skill)

No one other than yourself cares what rank you are. If you play enough it’ll align with mmr, if you don’t it won’t.

That’s literally what I’ll happen next season as there is no reset. In time people will have played enough over this season and next and it’ll make no difference.

This faux rage about it is a bit of a waste of your energy.

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Practically the only thing that separates quickplay from competitive is the visible tier you have, and you’re asking why does it matter? It’s literally the entire point of competitive mode, this is an example of how you’re out of touch with this whole process and maybe why you’re confused as to why all the outrage about the matchmaker, you don’t have empathy for what real competitors are experiencing.

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many have performed well in game and dropped. so your reasoning is invalid speculation.

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It’s probably putting you against higher ranks most games. Same thing happened to me where I was plat but kept going up against masters every game. So I only needed to go 5-9 in order to climb.

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not really if they are going 5 and 5 every time and going up while people who have wildly different win loss records go up and down a lose streak might have just caught up

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You’re probably overperforming in hard games vs what it expects from you. I missed a season and for some reason the matchmaker decided to start me in plat 5 (prior to placements). I went 5-0 and moved to plat 3, I then went 5-4 and moved to diamond 5. Always against other diamonds and masters.
It’s why I don’t believe in the “rigged” stuff. Play your best and you’ll see results.

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Because you probably got some games you were supposed to lose but managed to win.

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I didn’t rank up after 5-3 and 5-4 lol it’s making me crazzzzy

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They said there is no performance data used, no pbsr or pbmmr.

That’s what they said…after years of saying rank averages and population data and account history was being used to drive mmr.

So idk if i believe what they say, because the “correct” way to rank people is by who they win against (drawn from a rank at random, not rigged), not how they win.

It’s possible the hidden mmr rigging put them into higher and higher lobbies and despite the 5-5 winrate they pulled a net elo gain, since they won games they were calculated to lose.

You literally explain how it’s rigged. The MM rigs lobbies around some hidden mmr for 50-50 outcomes and you have to constantly surprise it. And all that for fake pixels. Your true ability is never shown (mmr), is rigged on (SBMM and possibly EOMM or DDA), and your pixels are fake, in a game that is nearly ded/lowpop so the lobbies aren’t even representative.

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No, I don’t have empathy for you. That’s different. Especially when your so whiney

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They don’t take performance into account when adjusting rank. They’ve made that clear.

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No it doesn’t. Out of the heroes I regularly play my winrate ranges from 52-65%. 90% of the time my ability and energy decides the games. You’re mistaking the matchmaker pushing you to your limit (which will result in a natural 50/50) for rigging.
In OW1 I took myself from high bronze to high diamond on support, the hardest role to rank up with, and in season one OW2 I made a similar journey. I’m not some incredibly talented player, if everything I read about the matchmaker & MMR was true I’d never have gotten anywhere.

You have to perform better than the rank it thinks you are to rank up? You mean you have to rank up to rank up?

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