Why do I get punished queuing with two friends?

My friends and I have two accounts, our main accounts reside in gold and plat, our alt accounts reside in low-diamond, we play role-queue.

When we queue on either we get punished, our three other teammates (if you could call them that) will always play the worst DPS or X and perform horribly in comparison to the other team.

When we win, it is due to us outperforming the other team by a lot.

It is always a 3v6. Consistently having top kills/DPS/heals as tanks / heals.

We see this in gold/plat much more than the mid-tier diamond accounts.

Why is our SR so bumped up when queueing vice being solo?

Thanks!

Everyone bow down to OneSadKeanu. He is top 500 over performer stuck in gold/plat due to everyone else just being trash.

Let’s give this man a free ride to GM. We should all learn how to play from OneSadKeanu. He is the way.

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You’ll see lots of complaints on here about healers in groups just healing their mates or pocketing their dps/tanks. Take a look at a replay and see if that is happening in your group. It makes it so much harder for the other three and it is no wonder your group is getting the medals.

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Do you have a replay code where this 3 vs 6 is happening? Let me know which 3 are effectively doing nothing.

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Join team chat and you might win.

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The game gives you harder opponents to compensate for the advantage in grouping.

You need to have very specific synergy with your group in order to overcome it. Pharah or Ashe + Mercy, Rein/Zarya (prior metas), Ana/Genji, etc.

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Sure, XYSA5N Onesadkeanu, Prae, Nade we are carrying the other three are doing nothing.

We should have lost this game, but we made swaps and held it at the end.

That way stupid matchmaker is ballancing stacks vs solos.

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People take great offense to someone questioning the matchmaker, as if the person said they belong in masters. Look at Blake’s embarrassing reply.

But, really. The matchmaker uses a hidden rating to force what it thinks is an even match.

I find playing in a duo, the MMR when you BOTH win and put up big games does some adjustment so your next match is almost a guaranteed auto-loss.

At this point, we can’t even win two games without going vs. a high plat or having literal throwers on our team. This is supposed to make for an “even match” i guess.

It used to be like 7 games. And then Jeff Kaplan literally said that they’re going to make adjustments so it’s more like two games. So it doesn’t FEEL as streaky.

Meaning… they’re controlling it. They’re trying to play God and use algorithms to rig up the matches, rather than let them happen naturally.

Whatever they’re doing, it’s WAY too strong.
100% random games in your rank would make more sense.

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I don’t like playing with stacks there is almost always a huge weakness in one of the roles. My experience with 3 stacks is they usually come with the best player and also the two worst players on the team. Which is not worth it 90% of the time.

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I actually watched that replay code.XYSA5N with you and your friends being rein and ashe and lucio.
I used to thought you were trolling on this forum, but after watching that I believe everything you ever said on this forum is genuine. But genuinely wrong.

Your Rein got absolutely rolled by the other Rein. However, their rein got Ana Mercy Mei while you guys are lucio moira, That’s definitely excusable. The Hog swap on defence is good since I think he realized burst healing for him against the other rein is non existent. Good job on staying on the lucio during attack and not asking for Moira to switch. Did you even know that would be an issue for Rein matchups?

Your Ashe did nothing to help her team except being a Bob bot. Your other dps carried attack on point A as soldier with significantly faster ult charge than Ashe and 5 final blows, and then swapped to Cree to protect your LOW GROUND SCOPING ASHE WHO HITS NOTHING from ball and tracer. You guys won a teamfight with Bob+Shatter+Sound barrier, i guess you carried? Ashe went to high ground ONLY ONCE despite it is freaking Dorado point B with their dive dps being a tracer and the other one a mei. I don’t even know what could hit her if she actually used coach gun once. Pog. You guys did not carry your team. They played exactly as good as you with your Ashe having 0 impact.

I don’t know anything about Lucio so ill just shut up about your part. But do notice your Lucio Moira combination is one of the reasons you guys can’t continue to push up against their Rein at point B cuz the second your Rein let go of his shield he is gonna die. Or rather, if both reins start swinging their hammers, he is still gonna die theres nothing he can do.

You guys didn’t even carry on defense. Their dps picked doomfist into torb hog sombra orisa bap. I don’t know what the hell the guy is thinking. That is unlucky comp even for Chipsa. Had he played Ashe you guys would prolly have a much harder time.

Bap pick on defense for Orisa is very good. But it is not even you or your tank it is the other healer and the other tank. Torb obviously did a lot of work. You guys were the ones getting carried
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So you don’t even get punished 3 stacking. YOU PUNISH YOUR TEAMMATES. STOP WHINING FFS

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The game handicaps you so you play longer. It’s about Monthly Active Users, not fun or fair matches.

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Thank you for your critique, you being top 500 I really respect your opinion.

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Is that irony? :slight_smile: I didnt watch the game but he explained it really well.

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No, its sarcasm, the dude has a private profile, and is probably silver.

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You are playing against another team that most likely have a partial group too.

You don’t think that maybe the other team’s group is just playing way more coordinated than your team?

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I do think that, absolutely. Why do we get punished with three other people who random pick, have no mic, and could care less about playing as a team?

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they could be talking on discord.

you’re assuming they have no mic, but I think they are another group that is talking on discord or team chat. they don’t care about you, and they sure don’t owe you anything, except maybe throwing.

Here’s my opinion on your situation. You think the reason you lost is because of the other part of your team. They probably think the exact same thing. And neither group is going to listen to each other. So the communication is already broken down.

In any match, grouped or not, if communication breaks down its an almost sure loss.

who you blame doesn’t matter, because you’re all to blame.

the entire freaking team is to blame when communication breaks down.

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I disagree if you are unwilling to communicate to the other side, and most of the time it’s not a three-stack it’s 1 or 2, people refuse to go into social because they know what they are picking will get them yelled at.

How are we all to blame, when the other side refuses? Blizzard random queues us, lol?

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More importantly:

Why do I get punished for solo queuing into people who queued as friends?
It’s 90% of the time a farm for them.

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