Why do Cass and Mei do the same damage,

When you put it that way I guess I hgpe mei just doesnt turn into a mindless left click holding character though where people dont even have to aim I like skillful characters.

Wasnt really thinking about combos in OW2 but that does sound pretty broken. Like I said above though I really hope she doesnt turn into a left click bot. I like skillful characters.

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not rly. it’s the worst beam compared to other beam heroes, lowest range and still lowest damage by like half even after that damage increase. also is a projectile so you need to lead it unlike the hitscan beams

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Mei is straight underpowered rn so that probs has a lot to do with thingz

Mei’s primary is not good anymore. I’d argue that Crees right click is a much better CC ability than endo in it’s current state. Mei needs changes but with OW2 round the corner it’s pointless suggesting any, not that Mei suggestions go anywhere because Blizzard are too busy nerfing her rather than making her useful for anything but a 12s buggy ability.

Torb & McCree do the same exact damage for their primary fire, too.

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I don’t think they are both perfectly balanced but still.

It’s just a ā€œrandomā€ result of their kits. They both need to be bursty but not too bursty so Mei would need to freeze target before and McCassidy in exchange would be allowed to shoot faster so even if he misses a diver it’s still not too terrible.

70-75 is just a perfect middle number. You don’t get a kill with a headshot but you still cause quite a lot of damage so you are bursty.
Ashe also have the same value btw.

They all force you to combine another ability for a kill combo while still being useful by themselves.

Doesn’t even mention Mei’s wall lmao, the strongest part of her kit. Silly tank main.

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Falloff damage
Projectile speed and size
Makes it easier for mei.
Also mei’s role is an off tank not main dps.
So I have another question, why the hell mei have the same numbers as actual damage dealer with that size of the universe projectile that has the fastest speed in a game, and she also has clutching area-denial ult and pretty much tanking kit?

Wait, Mei is getting AOE damage? That’s new. Where did you hear this?

Its almost as if I was comparing apples to apples with the stun kill combo.

You are the only one over here talking about completely incomparable parts of kit.

Although, if you ask me, high damage consistent lasers bullets will always be the best weapon type in this game. Very few regular abilities are better besides barriers

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Mei’s kit is far more impactful and she has no damage fall off which means her icicles are really effective from any range.

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Its not and it’s existed since April 10th 2018, when Endothermic Blaster got the change that made it pierce through enemies, making it a source of aoe damage

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Calling that ā€œaoeā€ isn’t really right. That’s like calling quick melee AoE or Junkrat’s left click AoE.

Its exactly right, its a thinner aoe but has length to it compared to others, and how exactly is junkrat’s frag launcher whos majority of damage comes from the splash not direct, not an aoe attack exactly?

It is by technicality. But calling it AoE isn’t really it in spirit.

by technicality would be calling quick melee aoe, it technically is but rarely if ever applies, mei’s pierce and junkrats explosions can and do hit multiple opponents in realistic scenarios, they’re aoe, and in junkrats case the aoe allows him to hit opponents he otherwise wouldn’t at all

Yeah, and that makes me sad, another person moved closer to the ā€œshooterā€ archetype.

Yes, that is the direction the game is going, but there is a REAL graveyard of hero shooters which went there.

It is the place where hero shooters go to die.

If OW is already a dead game, would we call OW 2 deader?

I can still get in and play Overwatch, so it isn’t dead yet.

But the reason you don’t see a lot of new hero shooters is they are expensive, hard, and have a history of failing.

Look at the survivors, Overwatch, and Paladins, maybe TF2 (special case, because TF2’s problems is more bots than anything else).
Now look at the dead from the same period. Lawbreakers (very twitch reflex shooter heavy), Quake Champions.

The rest are more arena games.

The issue is moving towards pure twitch shooter means it has to compete with other twitch shooters, which there are a LOT of.

I don’t remember seeing anything about buffing the icicles, at best they’ll probably change the initial cast time on it, most compensation buffs were in the endothermic blaster itself, it might be my imagination but it seemed to slow faster, its damage has also been increased from 55 dps to 90, it might receive further buffs or they might go to buffing other parts of her kit

Edit: Just thought of something, with the removal of freeze and thus the thaw mechanic with it, there wont be anything that resets mei’s slow stacks, so while she wont freeze she can permanently slow a target down at max slow value she provides, this could get very dangerous IMO, cant wait to see it in action